1 00:00:34,310 --> 00:00:12,450 calling all beings y'all let's get it 2 00:00:41,869 --> 00:00:36,590 yeah 3 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:41,879 welcome back to calling all beings on a 4 00:00:47,630 --> 00:00:44,160 what now is it Thursday night right dabs 5 00:00:49,910 --> 00:00:47,640 yes it is indeed 6 00:00:51,889 --> 00:00:49,920 your host DJ and we're here to have some 7 00:00:55,069 --> 00:00:51,899 reaction to the biggest news in history 8 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:55,079 not a real big deal uh we don't have the 9 00:01:00,910 --> 00:00:57,120 Brotherhood of our brother the 10 00:01:05,450 --> 00:01:00,920 co-conspirator in our Quest For Fun 11 00:01:07,429 --> 00:01:05,460 entertaining introspective and cool UFO 12 00:01:10,310 --> 00:01:07,439 Talk Money Nathan he was not able to 13 00:01:12,710 --> 00:01:10,320 join us this evening well guess what we 14 00:01:14,450 --> 00:01:12,720 did bring something didn't we Debs we 15 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:14,460 brought a little bit of extra something 16 00:01:18,649 --> 00:01:16,260 special 17 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:18,659 yeah that is right there uh my co-host 18 00:01:23,090 --> 00:01:20,400 one of the original gangsters of this 19 00:01:26,330 --> 00:01:23,100 joint the host of Deb standard Dojo at a 20 00:01:29,289 --> 00:01:26,340 study of uaps is the centerpiece of this 21 00:01:32,149 --> 00:01:29,299 joint Debs so 22 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:32,159 one love to your girlfriend so we 23 00:01:35,390 --> 00:01:33,840 weren't able to get money Nathan we 24 00:01:38,090 --> 00:01:35,400 weren't able to get Leah Prime Time 25 00:01:40,130 --> 00:01:38,100 Frank is probably sleeping right now and 26 00:01:42,350 --> 00:01:40,140 Matt is uh chasing a Bigfoot interview 27 00:01:44,090 --> 00:01:42,360 tonight as we speak he had something 28 00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:44,100 going on he had to record when he could 29 00:01:48,530 --> 00:01:45,420 get this person 30 00:01:52,130 --> 00:01:48,540 uh but you know guess what we got for 31 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:52,140 you our first special guest is the host 32 00:02:00,649 --> 00:01:56,460 of The quantum witch Cafe this girl is 33 00:02:03,289 --> 00:02:00,659 learned intelligent UFO book club she 34 00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:03,299 speaks at these events intros people so 35 00:02:16,510 --> 00:02:06,000 put your hands together for Priscilla 36 00:02:20,809 --> 00:02:18,830 you're gonna record my intro for my 37 00:02:23,809 --> 00:02:20,819 podcast and announce me before every 38 00:02:26,030 --> 00:02:23,819 time I go on anytime you want uh 39 00:02:28,610 --> 00:02:26,040 Priscilla um so I called Priscilla this 40 00:02:30,290 --> 00:02:28,620 evening Debs and while she was excited 41 00:02:32,930 --> 00:02:30,300 to come on with us there was an 42 00:02:35,930 --> 00:02:32,940 additional level of excitement when I 43 00:02:38,089 --> 00:02:35,940 mentioned the name of our of our next 44 00:02:40,250 --> 00:02:38,099 guest tonight who's gonna break it down 45 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:40,260 who does so much work on Tick Tock 46 00:02:46,369 --> 00:02:42,480 everybody loves them and Purcell's like 47 00:02:48,369 --> 00:02:46,379 oh oh damn what okay yeah so a party 48 00:02:53,890 --> 00:02:48,379 people people put those hands together 49 00:02:56,570 --> 00:02:53,900 for my man hey look over there Dan worry 50 00:02:59,150 --> 00:02:56,580 hey what's up guys how's everybody doing 51 00:03:03,229 --> 00:02:59,160 tonight can I get an amen for 52 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:04,729 all right I just want to check is my 53 00:03:08,350 --> 00:03:06,239 audio coming in all right can you guys 54 00:03:11,570 --> 00:03:08,360 hear me yeah you sound good brother 55 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:11,580 welcome man thank you for coming in on 56 00:03:15,290 --> 00:03:13,200 short notice because uh we didn't have 57 00:03:16,610 --> 00:03:15,300 all the cabbies and I'm like man I hope 58 00:03:18,890 --> 00:03:16,620 we can get some of the brothers and 59 00:03:22,670 --> 00:03:18,900 sisters in here and uh you answered the 60 00:03:24,949 --> 00:03:22,680 call so so uh so so I've 61 00:03:27,290 --> 00:03:24,959 I'm notorious because I've labeled 62 00:03:29,330 --> 00:03:27,300 myself as the backup guest like that's 63 00:03:31,790 --> 00:03:29,340 my Niche like usually when someone 64 00:03:35,089 --> 00:03:31,800 cancels they'll call me and that's when 65 00:03:36,770 --> 00:03:35,099 I get my moment you were my I I want you 66 00:03:38,270 --> 00:03:36,780 that's absurd voice when I asked you all 67 00:03:40,670 --> 00:03:38,280 right when you came on my show like a 68 00:03:41,990 --> 00:03:40,680 year ago or so I was like watching your 69 00:03:43,850 --> 00:03:42,000 tick tocks I'm like this guy needs to 70 00:03:47,089 --> 00:03:43,860 come home so you're my first choice at 71 00:03:49,789 --> 00:03:47,099 that time huh so not a backup I also 72 00:03:52,070 --> 00:03:49,799 want to say I of all the interviews I've 73 00:03:53,750 --> 00:03:52,080 done I do think that my interview with 74 00:03:57,229 --> 00:03:53,760 Priscilla might have been my favorite 75 00:03:59,869 --> 00:03:57,239 one because I got to speculate more than 76 00:04:02,570 --> 00:03:59,879 I did ever before on that one that was 77 00:04:04,430 --> 00:04:02,580 fun that was an interesting one I felt 78 00:04:05,869 --> 00:04:04,440 definitely like that was like a treat 79 00:04:07,610 --> 00:04:05,879 because I know you don't do that I know 80 00:04:10,910 --> 00:04:07,620 you're like facts facts facts and you're 81 00:04:12,350 --> 00:04:10,920 so good at it and um yeah so we got you 82 00:04:14,449 --> 00:04:12,360 to speculate a little 83 00:04:16,849 --> 00:04:14,459 I got news for you Dan Priscilla is a 84 00:04:19,250 --> 00:04:16,859 lot of people's favorites so uh you're 85 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:19,260 in good company there and 86 00:04:22,969 --> 00:04:20,880 um yeah man we don't had you you're 87 00:04:25,310 --> 00:04:22,979 saying uh you're a backup guest I've had 88 00:04:28,249 --> 00:04:25,320 you on round tables like a year and a 89 00:04:31,070 --> 00:04:28,259 half ago or two years ago I'm moving up 90 00:04:33,710 --> 00:04:31,080 into batting order I'll say but I it's I 91 00:04:35,510 --> 00:04:33,720 started out as the backup guest I just 92 00:04:38,150 --> 00:04:35,520 as far as I'm concerned Dan you would be 93 00:04:40,610 --> 00:04:38,160 in the backcourt right next to LeBron I 94 00:04:42,830 --> 00:04:40,620 would yank uh uh I would I would yank 95 00:04:44,330 --> 00:04:42,840 that point guard for the Lakers you'd be 96 00:04:45,770 --> 00:04:44,340 right next to Brian yeah Delo man 97 00:04:46,850 --> 00:04:45,780 exactly 98 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:46,860 um he didn't play that well in the 99 00:04:51,170 --> 00:04:48,960 playoffs unfortunately 100 00:04:53,689 --> 00:04:51,180 um so anyway 101 00:04:55,129 --> 00:04:53,699 all right so let's get to it um uh 102 00:04:57,770 --> 00:04:55,139 people don't want to hear me talk they 103 00:04:59,570 --> 00:04:57,780 came to hear you guys talk so I I was 104 00:05:02,390 --> 00:04:59,580 thinking and I just want to ask you guys 105 00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:02,400 uh Priscilla Dan and Deb should we just 106 00:05:06,409 --> 00:05:04,320 go with like initial reactions just go 107 00:05:08,510 --> 00:05:06,419 around the table with that just how you 108 00:05:10,249 --> 00:05:08,520 what you felt like when you heard this 109 00:05:12,290 --> 00:05:10,259 news I feel like that's a good place to 110 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:12,300 start unless anyone disagrees 111 00:05:17,390 --> 00:05:14,639 let's do it it works for me and I'll say 112 00:05:21,530 --> 00:05:17,400 ladies first on on okay 113 00:05:23,210 --> 00:05:21,540 Debs okay so I guess because of the 114 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:23,220 history of the topic and being really 115 00:05:28,909 --> 00:05:25,680 knowledgeable about it for me it wasn't 116 00:05:32,210 --> 00:05:28,919 as shocking that someone came out to say 117 00:05:33,830 --> 00:05:32,220 that they were aware of UFO programs and 118 00:05:36,770 --> 00:05:33,840 entities and crashes and all that 119 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:36,780 because it's happened many many times 120 00:05:40,430 --> 00:05:38,400 before 121 00:05:44,270 --> 00:05:40,440 um and it's been happening you know 122 00:05:46,670 --> 00:05:44,280 since the 1800s at least so for me I 123 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:46,680 guess I just had a well of course kind 124 00:05:52,189 --> 00:05:50,160 of reaction to it you know so 125 00:05:54,350 --> 00:05:52,199 yeah it's just to me it's it's a domino 126 00:05:55,909 --> 00:05:54,360 getting ready to set off some more 127 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:55,919 dominoes 128 00:05:59,510 --> 00:05:57,600 oh yeah that's what we're hoping right 129 00:06:01,730 --> 00:05:59,520 that'll give some Aid and comfort to 130 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:01,740 David grush right when those when those 131 00:06:06,409 --> 00:06:03,600 other dominoes start to fall in the in 132 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:06,419 the form of people who were uh either 133 00:06:09,890 --> 00:06:08,400 directly or tangentially involved with 134 00:06:12,650 --> 00:06:09,900 these programs that they come forward 135 00:06:15,170 --> 00:06:12,660 and uh with the IG make the same 136 00:06:16,969 --> 00:06:15,180 assertions that he did get cleared and 137 00:06:19,070 --> 00:06:16,979 now we're now now he doesn't feel like 138 00:06:19,909 --> 00:06:19,080 he's sitting out there on an island uh 139 00:06:21,230 --> 00:06:19,919 yeah when you're talking about 140 00:06:23,749 --> 00:06:21,240 knowledgeable people I thought you were 141 00:06:26,510 --> 00:06:23,759 going to say me uh just kidding um so 142 00:06:28,670 --> 00:06:26,520 anyway Dan only has 30 minutes so Dan 143 00:06:30,469 --> 00:06:28,680 when you want that video played we have 144 00:06:33,350 --> 00:06:30,479 it queued up so just let me know and 145 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:33,360 we'll go with that uh okay and then 146 00:06:37,610 --> 00:06:35,520 let's go with Priscilla Priscilla uh 147 00:06:38,629 --> 00:06:37,620 tell us like where you were your 148 00:06:40,249 --> 00:06:38,639 reaction I don't know if you were 149 00:06:42,170 --> 00:06:40,259 getting the kids ready what what 150 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:42,180 happened what did you feel like 151 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:45,600 well I was in Arizona for a wedding a 152 00:06:50,390 --> 00:06:46,800 celebration 153 00:06:52,129 --> 00:06:50,400 um and I so I've been either on a plane 154 00:06:54,650 --> 00:06:52,139 or with family that I hadn't seen since 155 00:06:56,090 --> 00:06:54,660 pre-covered so I was not looking at the 156 00:06:57,230 --> 00:06:56,100 internet I think I was posting things 157 00:06:58,670 --> 00:06:57,240 here and there but I wasn't really 158 00:07:00,710 --> 00:06:58,680 paying attention Sunday I did not pay 159 00:07:02,150 --> 00:07:00,720 attention to anything Monday I was 160 00:07:04,189 --> 00:07:02,160 visiting all the family I could because 161 00:07:06,110 --> 00:07:04,199 I had a red eye and I finally get to the 162 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:06,120 airport and I sit down I'm like oh I 163 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:09,360 wonder what's going on in UFO land 164 00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:13,199 and let me tell you I was like wait what 165 00:07:18,050 --> 00:07:15,120 I mean it's like you said like it was a 166 00:07:20,089 --> 00:07:18,060 matter of time but at the same time it's 167 00:07:22,370 --> 00:07:20,099 just so it's not like surprised to see 168 00:07:23,930 --> 00:07:22,380 that it happened but it's just so cool 169 00:07:26,450 --> 00:07:23,940 to see that it happened especially with 170 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:26,460 you know the protection of you know the 171 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:35,330 yeah I'm I'll get to me but let's go to 172 00:07:38,990 --> 00:07:37,440 Dan Warren Dan you know where were you 173 00:07:40,850 --> 00:07:39,000 what you know when did you hear this 174 00:07:42,529 --> 00:07:40,860 what was your reaction were you like 175 00:07:45,710 --> 00:07:42,539 driving to work with a big smile like 176 00:07:50,029 --> 00:07:47,990 yeah I think I had dropped my daughter 177 00:07:52,010 --> 00:07:50,039 off at volleyball practice in the 178 00:07:54,290 --> 00:07:52,020 morning and was heading into work and 179 00:07:57,529 --> 00:07:54,300 started catching whiffs of what was 180 00:07:59,990 --> 00:07:57,539 going on and it's I responded in the 181 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:00,000 typical manner that I do when I get news 182 00:08:07,790 --> 00:08:03,199 related to UFOs is I assume it's nothing 183 00:08:10,730 --> 00:08:07,800 and hope that it's something so as and 184 00:08:13,370 --> 00:08:10,740 and a lot of my reaction I try to I try 185 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:13,380 to be reserved with it until I start 186 00:08:16,550 --> 00:08:15,300 seeing how other people are reacting to 187 00:08:20,809 --> 00:08:16,560 it as well because there's a lot more 188 00:08:23,990 --> 00:08:20,819 people that are tuned in and are very 189 00:08:26,330 --> 00:08:24,000 um have a very Niche body of knowledge 190 00:08:27,589 --> 00:08:26,340 like Douglas Dean Johnson like that's 191 00:08:29,930 --> 00:08:27,599 somebody that I want to hear his 192 00:08:32,149 --> 00:08:29,940 reaction before I kind of 193 00:08:34,010 --> 00:08:32,159 lay my chips on the table like I want to 194 00:08:37,610 --> 00:08:34,020 get I want to test the waters before I 195 00:08:39,769 --> 00:08:37,620 respond but as the day progressed my 196 00:08:41,449 --> 00:08:39,779 chest started getting tighter because I 197 00:08:43,370 --> 00:08:41,459 was like this just seems like it's going 198 00:08:44,930 --> 00:08:43,380 One Direction and it's getting more and 199 00:08:47,269 --> 00:08:44,940 more 200 00:08:49,250 --> 00:08:47,279 um backed up by other people there's 201 00:08:51,530 --> 00:08:49,260 more credentials being laid on the table 202 00:08:54,110 --> 00:08:51,540 the the big thing to me was the 203 00:08:56,410 --> 00:08:54,120 involvement of the lawyer for him which 204 00:08:59,690 --> 00:08:56,420 is the Former Intelligence Community 205 00:09:02,509 --> 00:08:59,700 Inspector General who is representing 206 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:02,519 him to the inspect current Inspector 207 00:09:07,370 --> 00:09:04,560 General as soon as I heard that I was 208 00:09:09,170 --> 00:09:07,380 like well that is like a great battle to 209 00:09:10,910 --> 00:09:09,180 witness if we could if we could be in 210 00:09:12,949 --> 00:09:10,920 that courtroom or however they have 211 00:09:16,130 --> 00:09:12,959 those discussions like the guy that 212 00:09:19,190 --> 00:09:16,140 wrote the rules is representing the guy 213 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:19,200 that is going up against the existing 214 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:21,120 Inspector General so when I started 215 00:09:25,310 --> 00:09:22,560 figuring that out and putting those 216 00:09:28,190 --> 00:09:25,320 together it really amped up my anxiety 217 00:09:30,170 --> 00:09:28,200 of is this is this coming and then to 218 00:09:34,130 --> 00:09:30,180 find out that we were getting a 219 00:09:36,590 --> 00:09:34,140 few clips of a seven hour interview that 220 00:09:38,269 --> 00:09:36,600 who knows what's inside that interview 221 00:09:41,269 --> 00:09:38,279 that we're going to find out about on 222 00:09:43,910 --> 00:09:41,279 Sunday it just continued to amp me up 223 00:09:47,509 --> 00:09:43,920 and so it is a great thing but of course 224 00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:47,519 like Deb says hey this is this is just 225 00:09:51,889 --> 00:09:49,440 par for the course this kind of thing 226 00:09:55,370 --> 00:09:51,899 happens but it does in my opinion feel 227 00:09:59,090 --> 00:09:55,380 different this time around based on the 228 00:10:00,710 --> 00:09:59,100 preceding events such as people saying 229 00:10:03,829 --> 00:10:00,720 that the rumors of people saying that 230 00:10:05,990 --> 00:10:03,839 they told Arrow these things and then 231 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:06,000 they were upset when they heard 232 00:10:10,730 --> 00:10:07,920 Kirkpatrick say that they got no 233 00:10:13,810 --> 00:10:10,740 evidence and so they it almost felt like 234 00:10:17,410 --> 00:10:13,820 it was a retaliate a retaliation to 235 00:10:20,329 --> 00:10:17,420 Kirkpatrick's lack of 236 00:10:22,130 --> 00:10:20,339 investigative skills like I'll call it 237 00:10:23,870 --> 00:10:22,140 for follow-up skills on the testimony 238 00:10:26,329 --> 00:10:23,880 that he received I almost felt like they 239 00:10:28,430 --> 00:10:26,339 were insulted and this was the result of 240 00:10:30,350 --> 00:10:28,440 interesting that that's an interesting 241 00:10:34,009 --> 00:10:30,360 context that I hadn't heard yet Dan that 242 00:10:36,829 --> 00:10:34,019 people were pissed off uh after his his 243 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:36,839 briefing which was in early to mid-april 244 00:10:41,870 --> 00:10:39,600 I believe uh and then and then the 245 00:10:44,269 --> 00:10:41,880 subsequent briefing with uh NASA the 246 00:10:46,970 --> 00:10:44,279 part two uh the the lawyer you spoke of 247 00:10:49,009 --> 00:10:46,980 is uh Charles McCullough III senior 248 00:10:52,670 --> 00:10:49,019 partner of the compass rose Legal Group 249 00:10:54,590 --> 00:10:52,680 in DC the original IG of the IC 250 00:10:56,269 --> 00:10:54,600 community so 251 00:10:59,210 --> 00:10:56,279 um I got that from this article I'll 252 00:11:01,130 --> 00:10:59,220 link people to it with Jonathan wolf I 253 00:11:02,389 --> 00:11:01,140 shared it the other day I think somebody 254 00:11:05,449 --> 00:11:02,399 shared it with me it might have been 255 00:11:07,490 --> 00:11:05,459 Shannon Scott but someone shared it uh 256 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:07,500 in in that it's a legal perspective on 257 00:11:10,970 --> 00:11:08,880 this case so it was really really 258 00:11:13,550 --> 00:11:10,980 interesting 259 00:11:15,650 --> 00:11:13,560 um for my part I talked to our good 260 00:11:18,230 --> 00:11:15,660 friend from UFO Twitter Richard Bud 261 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:18,240 around April 21st 262 00:11:21,350 --> 00:11:19,920 um didn't know the name of this person 263 00:11:23,810 --> 00:11:21,360 didn't know when it was going to happen 264 00:11:26,329 --> 00:11:23,820 but he said that you know something 265 00:11:29,389 --> 00:11:26,339 something's gonna happen 266 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:29,399 um and I said why you know why why are 267 00:11:32,870 --> 00:11:31,440 people that are cleared gonna do this 268 00:11:33,470 --> 00:11:32,880 and he said well because they're pissed 269 00:11:35,810 --> 00:11:33,480 off 270 00:11:38,449 --> 00:11:35,820 uh because they've been mistreated or 271 00:11:41,150 --> 00:11:38,459 intimidated or been treated in a way 272 00:11:44,990 --> 00:11:41,160 that's not doesn't comport with you know 273 00:11:46,850 --> 00:11:45,000 with our our values as a as a gov so so 274 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:46,860 that's their impetus to want to do this 275 00:11:51,410 --> 00:11:49,200 so I was like oh okay 276 00:11:53,210 --> 00:11:51,420 um and that's all I knew and I had no 277 00:11:55,069 --> 00:11:53,220 idea that it was going to happen that 278 00:11:57,050 --> 00:11:55,079 Monday I was just you know as surprised 279 00:11:59,810 --> 00:11:57,060 as anybody when it when Monday morning I 280 00:12:03,889 --> 00:11:59,820 woke up and and this this this uh this 281 00:12:06,110 --> 00:12:03,899 news came out and I felt really good Dan 282 00:12:07,730 --> 00:12:06,120 because I'm I always am thinking that 283 00:12:09,889 --> 00:12:07,740 everything is a nothing Burger I've 284 00:12:12,829 --> 00:12:09,899 thought every briefing that I've heard 285 00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:12,839 on this topic was a nothing Burger 286 00:12:19,790 --> 00:12:16,320 um so far from the Pentagon and uh I see 287 00:12:23,150 --> 00:12:19,800 I did the British intonation there and 288 00:12:24,290 --> 00:12:23,160 um and uh and so I expected you know 289 00:12:27,230 --> 00:12:24,300 nothing better and then all of a sudden 290 00:12:29,930 --> 00:12:27,240 this happened and it was just absolutely 291 00:12:32,269 --> 00:12:29,940 um absolutely shocking that it that it 292 00:12:34,210 --> 00:12:32,279 did it did happen so 293 00:12:37,130 --> 00:12:34,220 um I'm so gratified for the community 294 00:12:39,769 --> 00:12:37,140 and now 295 00:12:41,569 --> 00:12:39,779 um you know these are here's the point 296 00:12:44,150 --> 00:12:41,579 about it and this this is you know what 297 00:12:46,250 --> 00:12:44,160 what I want to say just like initially 298 00:12:49,069 --> 00:12:46,260 when there's something that's of a top 299 00:12:51,769 --> 00:12:49,079 secret nature that's in a sensitive 300 00:12:53,150 --> 00:12:51,779 compartmentalized information nature and 301 00:12:55,430 --> 00:12:53,160 it's in a sap 302 00:12:57,290 --> 00:12:55,440 then you we assume that that there 303 00:13:00,829 --> 00:12:57,300 everything about it if you talk about it 304 00:13:02,990 --> 00:13:00,839 it's damaging and I'm not in I you know 305 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:03,000 I've had that clearance but although I'm 306 00:13:07,430 --> 00:13:04,980 not an expert in Intel I don't know how 307 00:13:09,769 --> 00:13:07,440 to disseminate intelligence I'm not I'm 308 00:13:12,050 --> 00:13:09,779 not you know an analyst or or any of 309 00:13:15,069 --> 00:13:12,060 that sort of thing and what these people 310 00:13:17,449 --> 00:13:15,079 are saying no you can let people know 311 00:13:20,449 --> 00:13:17,459 particularly legislators that are paying 312 00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:20,459 for it that the program exists the 313 00:13:24,290 --> 00:13:22,320 nature of the program what they've 314 00:13:26,690 --> 00:13:24,300 derived and exploited and what they 315 00:13:29,210 --> 00:13:26,700 found and discovered uh and what they 316 00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:29,220 have you don't necessarily have to uh 317 00:13:33,050 --> 00:13:30,959 give all that up because then obviously 318 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:33,060 our enemy could will have that exact 319 00:13:36,410 --> 00:13:35,040 same information but you can tell 320 00:13:37,970 --> 00:13:36,420 something and that's what these Intel 321 00:13:39,829 --> 00:13:37,980 professionals are telling us 322 00:13:41,690 --> 00:13:39,839 so 323 00:13:45,230 --> 00:13:41,700 um with that let me let me go back to 324 00:13:47,990 --> 00:13:45,240 Debs again Deb uh second round 325 00:13:51,170 --> 00:13:48,000 so I wanted to say that in response to 326 00:13:54,290 --> 00:13:51,180 what Dan said there is somewhat of a 327 00:13:55,970 --> 00:13:54,300 rumor that Kirkpatrick is linked to some 328 00:13:59,509 --> 00:13:55,980 of these people and it's actually a 329 00:14:02,389 --> 00:13:59,519 believer in non-human intelligence 330 00:14:04,370 --> 00:14:02,399 um and to be you know pretty Frank I 331 00:14:07,550 --> 00:14:04,380 believe Green Street started that rumor 332 00:14:11,150 --> 00:14:07,560 and it's just it's based off a picture 333 00:14:14,170 --> 00:14:11,160 of a group of people who spoke to 334 00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:14,180 Brandon fugle about Skinwalker Ranch 335 00:14:20,509 --> 00:14:18,480 and if that is the case he may be aware 336 00:14:22,430 --> 00:14:20,519 that this was going to happen like or 337 00:14:25,810 --> 00:14:22,440 was aware that this is going to happen 338 00:14:28,430 --> 00:14:25,820 and may not have been completely 339 00:14:30,829 --> 00:14:28,440 sidelined so to speak 340 00:14:34,190 --> 00:14:30,839 um that's a possibility I can't rule it 341 00:14:37,310 --> 00:14:34,200 out and I also think that it could also 342 00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:37,320 be the whole thing is about this lack of 343 00:14:43,850 --> 00:14:41,040 access that Arrow has and to really 344 00:14:46,129 --> 00:14:43,860 magnify that they can't even investigate 345 00:14:47,689 --> 00:14:46,139 this they don't even have the power to 346 00:14:49,970 --> 00:14:47,699 investigate these things because it's 347 00:14:51,650 --> 00:14:49,980 they're not at that level to be able to 348 00:14:53,090 --> 00:14:51,660 they're not read in they're not read 349 00:14:54,350 --> 00:14:53,100 into it 350 00:14:57,050 --> 00:14:54,360 right 351 00:14:59,389 --> 00:14:57,060 so just in response to what you said to 352 00:15:02,030 --> 00:14:59,399 what the response to what Dan said 353 00:15:05,230 --> 00:15:02,040 um Ross cultart said now this is just 354 00:15:07,670 --> 00:15:05,240 I'm quoting Ross here that that uh 355 00:15:09,769 --> 00:15:07,680 Kirkpatrick most certainly knows I don't 356 00:15:12,290 --> 00:15:09,779 know how Ross knows that what he knows 357 00:15:13,850 --> 00:15:12,300 and that and that even if they're not 358 00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:13,860 and I believe that they're not read into 359 00:15:17,930 --> 00:15:15,959 those programs because that basically is 360 00:15:19,970 --> 00:15:17,940 what David grush is telling you we were 361 00:15:22,370 --> 00:15:19,980 not read into them but those people came 362 00:15:23,810 --> 00:15:22,380 to me based on a lot of things that we 363 00:15:26,269 --> 00:15:23,820 don't know yet things that are still 364 00:15:27,650 --> 00:15:26,279 being held by the igic 365 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:27,660 but 366 00:15:32,990 --> 00:15:30,540 what what we do know is that uh or or 367 00:15:34,910 --> 00:15:33,000 what we can suspect I should say that is 368 00:15:37,310 --> 00:15:34,920 perhaps Kirkpatrick knows for the same 369 00:15:39,410 --> 00:15:37,320 reason that Crush knew because he's the 370 00:15:41,930 --> 00:15:39,420 director of the program and perhaps 371 00:15:43,790 --> 00:15:41,940 people have approached him but I can't I 372 00:15:47,150 --> 00:15:43,800 can't say that that he definitely knows 373 00:15:49,310 --> 00:15:47,160 but Ross coltar does believe he knows 374 00:15:51,470 --> 00:15:49,320 so let me chime in on Kirkpatrick real 375 00:15:52,970 --> 00:15:51,480 quick because I've heard similar things 376 00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:52,980 from Green Street I think it was 377 00:15:55,550 --> 00:15:54,240 basically that they had an interview 378 00:15:58,250 --> 00:15:55,560 with 379 00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:58,260 um Brandon fugle and he's her Patrick 380 00:16:02,750 --> 00:16:00,240 started the meeting by saying you don't 381 00:16:05,449 --> 00:16:02,760 have to convince us or convince me of 382 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:05,459 UFOs I believe that they exist now prove 383 00:16:09,829 --> 00:16:07,680 now let's talk about this other thing I 384 00:16:12,590 --> 00:16:09,839 think that was the overarching 385 00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:12,600 discussion that was had but when you 386 00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:16,800 take someone out of a what you what your 387 00:16:20,509 --> 00:16:18,240 personal beliefs your personal 388 00:16:23,210 --> 00:16:20,519 environment and put them in a situation 389 00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:23,220 where you say now I want you to prove 390 00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:26,160 this to me I could sit here and it's a 391 00:16:29,750 --> 00:16:27,839 different story I could sit here and say 392 00:16:31,370 --> 00:16:29,760 I got a good jump shot 393 00:16:33,350 --> 00:16:31,380 and then you could turn around and say 394 00:16:35,689 --> 00:16:33,360 prove it to me but I'm not going to give 395 00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:35,699 you a basketball so when I look at 396 00:16:40,009 --> 00:16:37,440 Kirkpatrick he doesn't have the 397 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:40,019 information available to prove his 398 00:16:46,249 --> 00:16:42,720 belief with the available information at 399 00:16:49,370 --> 00:16:46,259 hand so he's in my opinion taking the J 400 00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:49,380 Allen heineck route where he is going 401 00:16:55,970 --> 00:16:52,800 with the information that he has and he 402 00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:55,980 can't use current data to prove his 403 00:17:00,829 --> 00:16:59,519 point But as time goes on if he if if 404 00:17:03,769 --> 00:17:00,839 the statements that we've heard about 405 00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:03,779 him are true he will eventually come 406 00:17:08,569 --> 00:17:06,000 around and begin to 407 00:17:10,549 --> 00:17:08,579 just like Jay on heineck become a 408 00:17:12,409 --> 00:17:10,559 Believer because he's been able to prove 409 00:17:14,750 --> 00:17:12,419 it to himself and he can turn around and 410 00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:14,760 prove it to you and I I think that's the 411 00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:16,799 trajectory that he's on I hope he'll 412 00:17:19,730 --> 00:17:18,240 last that long because I've also heard a 413 00:17:21,949 --> 00:17:19,740 lot of rumors about him not going to 414 00:17:24,169 --> 00:17:21,959 make the make it in that position for 415 00:17:25,850 --> 00:17:24,179 the last for the rest of the year so I 416 00:17:28,189 --> 00:17:25,860 don't know what his future holds but I 417 00:17:29,690 --> 00:17:28,199 think that I still I'm going to give him 418 00:17:30,890 --> 00:17:29,700 the benefit of the doubt until proven 419 00:17:32,990 --> 00:17:30,900 otherwise 420 00:17:34,730 --> 00:17:33,000 I I really like that because there's 421 00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:34,740 only two data points here that we have 422 00:17:40,190 --> 00:17:38,160 we have that he said I don't I don't 423 00:17:41,570 --> 00:17:40,200 know I I don't have this information he 424 00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:41,580 said that I don't know of any 425 00:17:46,490 --> 00:17:43,919 extraterrestrial anything and the data 426 00:17:49,010 --> 00:17:46,500 point that David grush says that as when 427 00:17:51,650 --> 00:17:49,020 I was part of the uaptf we were not read 428 00:17:53,930 --> 00:17:51,660 into these programs so we have that at 429 00:17:56,690 --> 00:17:53,940 face value so anything that somebody 430 00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:56,700 says if Ross I mean Ross may know things 431 00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:58,080 that we don't know and have spoken to 432 00:18:02,570 --> 00:18:00,000 people that we haven't spoken with that 433 00:18:04,789 --> 00:18:02,580 that maybe he you know knows more from 434 00:18:06,409 --> 00:18:04,799 unofficially the way that Russia but we 435 00:18:08,330 --> 00:18:06,419 don't know that so I I have to agree 436 00:18:10,490 --> 00:18:08,340 with you Dan we can't really make any 437 00:18:13,370 --> 00:18:10,500 further assertion based on the data we 438 00:18:16,370 --> 00:18:13,380 have those two data points Priscilla 439 00:18:18,049 --> 00:18:16,380 what I found interesting about um in the 440 00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:18,059 article put out by the debrief you know 441 00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:21,120 it was the fact that brush was sort of 442 00:18:25,789 --> 00:18:23,760 not a little bit more concerned maybe a 443 00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:25,799 little upset about the nesting of uip 444 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:28,080 programs within other departments so it 445 00:18:34,130 --> 00:18:31,200 makes it really hard for people studying 446 00:18:35,810 --> 00:18:34,140 this now to get the clearance to find 447 00:18:37,970 --> 00:18:35,820 even if you have the clearance where do 448 00:18:39,470 --> 00:18:37,980 you look for this that's very concerning 449 00:18:41,150 --> 00:18:39,480 and it was also mentioned that you know 450 00:18:43,130 --> 00:18:41,160 well if that's if that's what they're 451 00:18:44,750 --> 00:18:43,140 doing then it's illegal 452 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:44,760 um so that is another huge thing that 453 00:18:48,409 --> 00:18:46,260 was brought up in the article that was 454 00:18:50,870 --> 00:18:48,419 concerning to me as well which we knew 455 00:18:52,549 --> 00:18:50,880 was the case as we've heard before but 456 00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:52,559 it just concerns me and other people 457 00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,480 that the nesting of these uip programs 458 00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:57,120 might make it hard for us to find like a 459 00:18:59,690 --> 00:18:58,559 complete set of evidence do you know 460 00:19:00,830 --> 00:18:59,700 what I mean like there might be 461 00:19:02,090 --> 00:19:00,840 something here and then we find 462 00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:02,100 something here and then the missing 463 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:03,600 piece might not be found because of 464 00:19:08,450 --> 00:19:06,480 where it's hidden or kept 465 00:19:11,090 --> 00:19:08,460 there's no question is until you're 466 00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:11,100 until you are read into that program and 467 00:19:15,529 --> 00:19:12,900 you sign that piece of paper that talks 468 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:15,539 about jail time and talks about fines 469 00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:17,700 and all these sorts of things until you 470 00:19:21,950 --> 00:19:20,160 sign that you can have the highest 471 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:21,960 clearance that you know you can have a 472 00:19:26,750 --> 00:19:24,720 tsfci with poly you can have one of 473 00:19:28,669 --> 00:19:26,760 those Department of energy clearances 474 00:19:30,650 --> 00:19:28,679 Etc it doesn't really matter you don't 475 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:30,660 have the need to know until you read 476 00:19:34,610 --> 00:19:32,640 into that program which you go through 477 00:19:37,490 --> 00:19:34,620 briefing you sign that paper now you're 478 00:19:39,169 --> 00:19:37,500 in now when you leave service you sign 479 00:19:40,850 --> 00:19:39,179 out of that program that you're not 480 00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:40,860 going to talk about that just like I did 481 00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:43,919 just like everybody did Ramirez Etc 482 00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:45,780 um then you you read out of that program 483 00:19:49,390 --> 00:19:47,760 and say that you won't talk about it so 484 00:19:51,529 --> 00:19:49,400 you're right you're right they could be 485 00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:51,539 compartmented but the good news 486 00:19:56,330 --> 00:19:53,520 Priscilla is that a number of these 487 00:19:58,490 --> 00:19:56,340 people have come forward to him and if 488 00:20:00,590 --> 00:19:58,500 they see that he doesn't get railroaded 489 00:20:02,390 --> 00:20:00,600 somehow 490 00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:02,400 um maybe they're gonna come forward this 491 00:20:07,610 --> 00:20:04,799 is their their crash test dummy right 492 00:20:14,529 --> 00:20:09,529 which by the way 493 00:20:21,169 --> 00:20:18,230 I know I remember those PSAs 494 00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:21,179 um what does this tell us about uh 495 00:20:26,270 --> 00:20:24,000 Roswell Dan like I mean because he said 496 00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:26,280 this goes all the way back you know to 497 00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:27,960 the cold I mean he's dating it further 498 00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:30,000 back I think it alludes to the video 499 00:20:33,169 --> 00:20:31,679 that you're gonna have a show and and 500 00:20:35,450 --> 00:20:33,179 we'll be ready to play that whenever 501 00:20:37,549 --> 00:20:35,460 you're ready uh what is does that does 502 00:20:40,430 --> 00:20:37,559 this tell you anything about Roswell 503 00:20:42,409 --> 00:20:40,440 uh nothing specifically about Roswell 504 00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:42,419 Roswell has been mentioned at this point 505 00:20:49,130 --> 00:20:45,600 but he has alluded to a decades-long 506 00:20:50,930 --> 00:20:49,140 cold war to basically figure out the 507 00:20:53,950 --> 00:20:50,940 technology associated with UFOs that 508 00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:53,960 goes all that goes back 90 years to 1933 509 00:20:59,690 --> 00:20:56,400 and that's what I made this video about 510 00:21:01,549 --> 00:20:59,700 uh the DJ Ace apparently with Deb's help 511 00:21:04,490 --> 00:21:01,559 I think she's the brains behind the 512 00:21:07,250 --> 00:21:04,500 operation is able to play and I can't 513 00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:07,260 sit here and describe it well but I did 514 00:21:10,730 --> 00:21:09,120 make a three minute video about it so if 515 00:21:12,110 --> 00:21:10,740 you want to play it that's great and it 516 00:21:15,049 --> 00:21:12,120 can just kind of give us some context 517 00:21:18,770 --> 00:21:15,059 behind the event that 518 00:21:21,890 --> 00:21:18,780 um that grow grocery is talking about 519 00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:21,900 right now that's going to be hopefully 520 00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:23,039 um 521 00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:24,900 more health information will come out 522 00:21:31,010 --> 00:21:27,120 about it in The Seven Hour Energy that 523 00:21:32,570 --> 00:21:31,020 comes up later oh I can't I mean Dan I 524 00:21:34,970 --> 00:21:32,580 hope you have the popcorn done well 525 00:21:36,890 --> 00:21:34,980 before the eight o'clock hour 526 00:21:38,930 --> 00:21:36,900 um but anyway I just do want to say 527 00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:38,940 hello to you before we place hello to 528 00:21:43,850 --> 00:21:41,039 Julie in the chat I see Deltas here 529 00:21:46,850 --> 00:21:43,860 Chris is here I saw Bob Marley uh 530 00:21:49,730 --> 00:21:46,860 earlier right I see Anon hello and on ET 531 00:21:51,230 --> 00:21:49,740 welcome back and um thank you Julie for 532 00:21:52,970 --> 00:21:51,240 doing this once again on short notice 533 00:21:54,590 --> 00:21:52,980 thank you everybody if you have 534 00:21:56,690 --> 00:21:54,600 questions we'll we'll get to them after 535 00:21:58,130 --> 00:21:56,700 I'm going to open the floor so any of 536 00:21:59,570 --> 00:21:58,140 these people can ask anyone a question 537 00:22:02,029 --> 00:21:59,580 and it doesn't look like I'm directing 538 00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:02,039 traffic so let's go ahead and see if we 539 00:22:05,870 --> 00:22:04,559 can get this video up and going for 540 00:22:08,210 --> 00:22:05,880 everyone while we're waiting I'll 541 00:22:11,090 --> 00:22:08,220 clarify I'm not a popcorn guy I'm a 542 00:22:11,930 --> 00:22:11,100 spicy pork rind guy so I'll have the bag 543 00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:11,940 ready 544 00:22:15,770 --> 00:22:13,919 God bless you Dan we haven't even asked 545 00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:15,780 you your favorite potato chips it's part 546 00:22:18,430 --> 00:22:17,100 of the cap hold nor have we asked 547 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:18,440 Priscilla 548 00:22:24,590 --> 00:22:22,320 while this did I ask you you asked me 549 00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:24,600 on a call one time on that call recently 550 00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,919 yeah we'll have to go over that again 551 00:22:29,690 --> 00:22:27,600 but we're gonna need to know your 552 00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:29,700 favorite potato chips uh seasoned or 553 00:22:34,190 --> 00:22:32,640 salted Etc but uh let's let's get this 554 00:22:36,590 --> 00:22:34,200 up there and see if see if we get this 555 00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:36,600 going here here we go 556 00:22:40,370 --> 00:22:38,880 okay 557 00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:40,380 um play it 558 00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:42,960 three it's reported that fascists not 559 00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:44,820 only saw a UFO but they actually 560 00:22:49,490 --> 00:22:47,460 recovered 33 it's reported that fascists 561 00:22:52,130 --> 00:22:49,500 not only saw a UFO but they actually 562 00:22:54,409 --> 00:22:52,140 recovered one oh yeah you're gonna want 563 00:22:57,230 --> 00:22:54,419 to hear this one with UFO sightings 564 00:22:59,870 --> 00:22:57,240 dating back to 1931 when Mussolini was 565 00:23:02,750 --> 00:22:59,880 in power and a flap of UFO sightings 566 00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:02,760 that occurred until 1940 which resulted 567 00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:04,980 in Mussolini himself setting up a secret 568 00:23:09,710 --> 00:23:07,679 commission to study the objects which 569 00:23:15,049 --> 00:23:09,720 led to the creation of what is known as 570 00:23:17,690 --> 00:23:15,059 the fascist UFO files April 11 1933 a 571 00:23:20,990 --> 00:23:17,700 UFO crashes their lands near magenta In 572 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:21,000 Lombardi Italy Italian authorities swoop 573 00:23:26,770 --> 00:23:23,760 in and take possession of The Craft 14 574 00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,780 years before the Roswell incident occurs 575 00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:28,799 Mussolini is informed of what has 576 00:23:33,169 --> 00:23:31,440 occurred and he authorizes a thorough 577 00:23:35,630 --> 00:23:33,179 investigation of the object by an 578 00:23:38,750 --> 00:23:35,640 obscure wartime intelligence unit called 579 00:23:41,690 --> 00:23:38,760 the rs-33 they quickly moved the object 580 00:23:44,029 --> 00:23:41,700 to a secure Hangar on SI AI property 581 00:23:46,010 --> 00:23:44,039 upon initial investigation they think 582 00:23:48,529 --> 00:23:46,020 the craft may be a French or German 583 00:23:51,529 --> 00:23:48,539 super weapon but upon closer 584 00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:51,539 investigation Senator Marconi who was 585 00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:53,039 the president of the royal Italian 586 00:23:58,490 --> 00:23:55,919 Academy of Sciences a recipient of 587 00:24:01,549 --> 00:23:58,500 Italy's Nobel Prize and their most 588 00:24:02,690 --> 00:24:01,559 famous scientist and inventor came to 589 00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:02,700 believe that the craft was 590 00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:05,580 extraterrestrial in nature from Mars 591 00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:07,980 specifically and he began to refer to it 592 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,799 as an unconventional flying vehicle this 593 00:24:15,169 --> 00:24:12,480 information is available thanks to the 594 00:24:17,090 --> 00:24:15,179 work of Roberto pinati because he has 595 00:24:19,490 --> 00:24:17,100 evidence of this occurring thanks to 596 00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:19,500 three telegrams which had a professional 597 00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:21,480 forensic analysis performed on them and 598 00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:23,520 they were deemed original and authentic 599 00:24:28,010 --> 00:24:25,919 one of these telegrams even states that 600 00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:28,020 Mussolini himself ordered absolute 601 00:24:33,289 --> 00:24:30,720 silence in regards to these craft but as 602 00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:33,299 things went South for Italy during WW2 603 00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:35,940 all their research and files on these 604 00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:38,580 crafts ended up in German hands and on 605 00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:42,659 March 23 1941 Mussolini made a speech 606 00:24:46,909 --> 00:24:45,120 where he stated it's more likely that 607 00:24:49,130 --> 00:24:46,919 the United States will be invaded by 608 00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:49,140 unknown but war-like inhabitants from 609 00:24:53,810 --> 00:24:51,299 the planet Mars who will come down from 610 00:24:56,210 --> 00:24:53,820 the starry place on unimaginable flying 611 00:24:57,169 --> 00:24:56,220 fortresses than by the soldiers of the 612 00:25:00,350 --> 00:24:57,179 axis 613 00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:00,360 and shortly after that in 1942 the 614 00:25:05,330 --> 00:25:02,880 Battle of Los Angeles occurred so did 615 00:25:08,810 --> 00:25:05,340 Mussolini know something but thankfully 616 00:25:11,390 --> 00:25:08,820 in April of 1945 the boys of the first 617 00:25:14,690 --> 00:25:11,400 Armored Division captured the hangar at 618 00:25:16,970 --> 00:25:14,700 the 1933 magenta UFO was rumored to be 619 00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:16,980 stored in where it was promptly packed 620 00:25:22,190 --> 00:25:18,960 up and shipped back to the good old us 621 00:25:24,049 --> 00:25:22,200 of a whereabouts unknown but the guy 622 00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:24,059 that used to lead the pentagon's UFO 623 00:25:29,630 --> 00:25:26,159 investigation has heard a thing or two 624 00:25:31,549 --> 00:25:29,640 about this incident uh but Roswell may 625 00:25:33,310 --> 00:25:31,559 not have been the first event I mean 626 00:25:36,110 --> 00:25:33,320 there's been some some some 627 00:25:38,690 --> 00:25:36,120 reporting internationally as well that 628 00:25:40,850 --> 00:25:38,700 there have been some some crashed 629 00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:40,860 vehicles and they were they were 630 00:25:45,890 --> 00:25:43,919 obtained by local authorities and there 631 00:25:48,350 --> 00:25:45,900 was some some scientific study done on 632 00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:48,360 them there is some documentation that 633 00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:51,059 has been validated uh that was uh that 634 00:25:55,730 --> 00:25:54,000 was from Mussolini himself it's it's 635 00:25:58,490 --> 00:25:55,740 authentic it's been proven to be 636 00:26:02,870 --> 00:25:58,500 authentic the the documentation and 637 00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:02,880 after World War II uh allegedly 638 00:26:07,730 --> 00:26:04,740 um parts of that that vehicle were 639 00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:07,740 brought to the United States 640 00:26:13,010 --> 00:26:09,240 man 641 00:26:15,409 --> 00:26:13,020 can I get an amen video yeah 642 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:15,419 yeah I've gotten I've gotten better at 643 00:26:20,090 --> 00:26:18,000 volume control and adjustment since I 644 00:26:22,490 --> 00:26:20,100 made that video sorry for people to use 645 00:26:24,590 --> 00:26:22,500 eardrums are hurting right now oh your 646 00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:24,600 beard doesn't look that bad either 647 00:26:27,950 --> 00:26:26,400 um so your favorite potato chip stand 648 00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:27,960 before we go any further 649 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:30,960 uh you're not gonna like this Cheetos 650 00:26:35,210 --> 00:26:33,360 I am gonna like that those are those are 651 00:26:36,769 --> 00:26:35,220 not potato chips though those are 652 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:36,779 favorite chips so if we just go with 653 00:26:41,450 --> 00:26:39,360 potato chips 654 00:26:43,010 --> 00:26:41,460 I mean I'm not you're gonna you're not 655 00:26:46,250 --> 00:26:43,020 gonna like it I'm gonna go with the Corn 656 00:26:48,769 --> 00:26:46,260 Chip and A Fritos I don't go potato 657 00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:48,779 chips very often it's just not in my 658 00:26:55,070 --> 00:26:51,360 wheelhouse okay you literally Doritos 659 00:27:02,930 --> 00:26:55,080 things that my kids leave in the Box 660 00:27:08,090 --> 00:27:05,630 all right so uh Priscilla potato chips 661 00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:08,100 can you remind me please it was both I 662 00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:10,799 like I like ridged non-ridge 663 00:27:16,010 --> 00:27:13,740 salted in Seasons right yeah like it has 664 00:27:18,590 --> 00:27:16,020 to be a mix it can't just give you your 665 00:27:21,049 --> 00:27:18,600 poly chip Dr Joe that's right I forgot 666 00:27:23,090 --> 00:27:21,059 that all right okay I just want to open 667 00:27:25,010 --> 00:27:23,100 the floor for anybody to ask anybody a 668 00:27:26,450 --> 00:27:25,020 question just to go ahead and Talk 669 00:27:28,370 --> 00:27:26,460 Amongst yourselves as Linda Richmond 670 00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:28,380 might have said 671 00:27:33,169 --> 00:27:31,679 oh well I I'm just excited that we're 672 00:27:35,810 --> 00:27:33,179 really paying attention to the history 673 00:27:38,330 --> 00:27:35,820 of Crash retrievals I cannot wait to 674 00:27:40,190 --> 00:27:38,340 talk more about that today because it's 675 00:27:43,610 --> 00:27:40,200 one of the things that really piqued my 676 00:27:46,430 --> 00:27:43,620 interest and there is so much that is 677 00:27:50,090 --> 00:27:46,440 available already in government boys 678 00:27:51,649 --> 00:27:50,100 waiting for people to look at and um I'm 679 00:27:53,570 --> 00:27:51,659 glad that people might actually be 680 00:27:56,269 --> 00:27:53,580 taking a serious look now 681 00:27:58,370 --> 00:27:56,279 so yeah so this is this reminds me of a 682 00:28:02,350 --> 00:27:58,380 conversation I had on Twitter earlier 683 00:28:05,690 --> 00:28:02,360 today where with Dave grush stating this 684 00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:05,700 historical uh start date for the UFO 685 00:28:11,390 --> 00:28:08,880 phenomenon it's making what once was old 686 00:28:13,070 --> 00:28:11,400 new again so it's like refreshing 687 00:28:14,990 --> 00:28:13,080 everything 688 00:28:18,110 --> 00:28:15,000 um I I've had a conversation with George 689 00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:18,120 Knapp offline where I was asking him 690 00:28:24,890 --> 00:28:21,120 questions about the history of project 691 00:28:27,649 --> 00:28:24,900 saucer which was the first UFO uh office 692 00:28:29,289 --> 00:28:27,659 I'll call it that was quickly renamed to 693 00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:29,299 a project 694 00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:32,100 Grudge I want to say 695 00:28:36,350 --> 00:28:33,240 um I might be getting that name wrong 696 00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:36,360 but he said well it's it's in this book 697 00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:39,840 by Edward Rupel no one looks at these 698 00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:41,640 old books anymore there's so much 699 00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:44,460 history in these books that people just 700 00:28:48,529 --> 00:28:46,860 ignore and that's what one of the things 701 00:28:50,510 --> 00:28:48,539 that I think is great about the current 702 00:28:53,330 --> 00:28:50,520 situation is people are going to be 703 00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,340 looking back now at the historical cases 704 00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:55,760 like Deb was saying and it's gonna 705 00:29:00,769 --> 00:28:58,559 reinvigorate those subjects those 706 00:29:02,210 --> 00:29:00,779 crashes that's that's going to be a fun 707 00:29:04,190 --> 00:29:02,220 ride 708 00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:04,200 Something Beautiful about this is that 709 00:29:09,409 --> 00:29:07,140 everybody is sort of stimulated by a 710 00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:09,419 different aspect of this story and you 711 00:29:13,370 --> 00:29:12,000 guys have just laid out yours and that's 712 00:29:15,649 --> 00:29:13,380 great you know because we don't really 713 00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:15,659 all we don't need to be all the same I'm 714 00:29:22,510 --> 00:29:17,640 very stimulated by the fact that 715 00:29:26,690 --> 00:29:22,520 somebody who's in the know who has seen 716 00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,700 documents seen photos seen videos 717 00:29:30,350 --> 00:29:28,799 and while he has not seen the craft 718 00:29:32,210 --> 00:29:30,360 himself he's come forward and that's 719 00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:32,220 good enough for me we have placed the 720 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,620 public trust in this individual up to 721 00:29:39,470 --> 00:29:36,720 and including as you heard Ross say this 722 00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:39,480 has put this man has been there uh 723 00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:41,460 putting together Intel briefings for the 724 00:29:44,810 --> 00:29:42,960 president 725 00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:44,820 um previously 726 00:29:50,450 --> 00:29:48,000 um another person told me that that 727 00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:50,460 knows him that said that 728 00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:52,980 um he was a Wonder kid when they needed 729 00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:56,640 to execute using technology certain 730 00:30:02,269 --> 00:30:00,000 types of counter-attacks and attacks he 731 00:30:05,210 --> 00:30:02,279 figured out how to do things that other 732 00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:05,220 people didn't which is why 733 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:08,159 um uh they use flag officers to vet this 734 00:30:14,750 --> 00:30:11,820 individual so when if he says I saw it 735 00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:14,760 and and people these are the the folks 736 00:30:18,590 --> 00:30:17,220 that I spoke with well you know the IG 737 00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,600 is going to be able to independently 738 00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:20,640 verify that and obviously it's it's 739 00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:22,320 quite credible and we've never had this 740 00:30:26,090 --> 00:30:23,760 has never happened in the history of our 741 00:30:28,010 --> 00:30:26,100 country uh even Lou you know didn't 742 00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:28,020 didn't have this information 743 00:30:31,570 --> 00:30:29,880 so um 744 00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:31,580 it's a moment 745 00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:34,080 this moment is it's the beginning of the 746 00:30:39,769 --> 00:30:35,520 beginning 747 00:30:41,149 --> 00:30:39,779 it's uh that's what's so amazing about 748 00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:41,159 it to me 749 00:30:53,389 --> 00:30:42,480 so 750 00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:55,370 um I mean just real quick that you know 751 00:30:59,510 --> 00:30:56,940 the article also talks about Jonathan 752 00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:59,520 Gray from nasic so and he's saying the 753 00:31:04,370 --> 00:31:00,720 singing stuff you know we're talking 754 00:31:05,870 --> 00:31:04,380 right Patterson which how long have we 755 00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:05,880 all been like right Patterson right you 756 00:31:09,169 --> 00:31:07,919 know what I mean like and now this is 757 00:31:12,110 --> 00:31:09,179 just like 758 00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:12,120 surprising that it's being written and 759 00:31:18,529 --> 00:31:14,760 you know and talked about now 760 00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,539 um but also just like a we freaking knew 761 00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:21,120 it you know what I mean so it's kind of 762 00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:22,860 refreshing to see like all these like 763 00:31:27,289 --> 00:31:25,440 connections coming out publicly 764 00:31:29,149 --> 00:31:27,299 I I said to my British friends I'll get 765 00:31:30,590 --> 00:31:29,159 to you right now Dan and we remind me we 766 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,600 have a starred question in the chat here 767 00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,640 uh but I said to our British friends I 768 00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:34,799 said Bob Lazar going How You Like Me Now 769 00:31:41,090 --> 00:31:38,700 brother huh what you know that's what 770 00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:41,100 Bob Lazar saying and guess what uh Rick 771 00:31:45,889 --> 00:31:43,980 Doty said the exact same things 772 00:31:48,830 --> 00:31:45,899 from back in the 80s when he was at 773 00:31:50,090 --> 00:31:48,840 Kirtland so you have that uh Dan you you 774 00:31:51,889 --> 00:31:50,100 were going to say something right before 775 00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:51,899 Priscilla 776 00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:53,760 uh just before I so rudely interrupted 777 00:31:58,490 --> 00:31:57,120 her my apologies prisilla um yes but I 778 00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:58,500 just want something that I found 779 00:32:04,430 --> 00:32:01,679 interesting about uh David's testimony 780 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,440 so far is that he's stating that the in 781 00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,000 some of the information that he has 782 00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:08,159 received are from people that he's known 783 00:32:12,590 --> 00:32:10,080 his entire career so those are his 784 00:32:15,409 --> 00:32:12,600 mentors that he went through the 785 00:32:17,450 --> 00:32:15,419 department with and I mean I've never 786 00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:17,460 worked with someone for 14 years I think 787 00:32:22,130 --> 00:32:19,260 that was his career 788 00:32:24,350 --> 00:32:22,140 um if I had worked with someone for 14 789 00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:24,360 years you establish a bond you 790 00:32:28,190 --> 00:32:26,340 established trust and it wasn't until 791 00:32:29,810 --> 00:32:28,200 the very end of his career that they 792 00:32:31,730 --> 00:32:29,820 started telling them these things that 793 00:32:33,769 --> 00:32:31,740 they started confiding into him when he 794 00:32:36,789 --> 00:32:33,779 became a member of the UAP task force 795 00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:36,799 that to me is speaks volumes because 796 00:32:43,310 --> 00:32:40,380 there's a trust both directions those 797 00:32:46,430 --> 00:32:43,320 mentors of his don't want to mislead him 798 00:32:48,649 --> 00:32:46,440 those those mentors look at David as 799 00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:48,659 their legacy because the next generation 800 00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:50,820 is going to replace each and every one 801 00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:52,860 of us so we have to make sure here that 802 00:32:55,789 --> 00:32:54,120 we're taking care of them that we're 803 00:32:58,190 --> 00:32:55,799 leading them in the right direction be 804 00:33:02,210 --> 00:32:58,200 successful so that to me kind of stood 805 00:33:04,010 --> 00:33:02,220 out as a man if if my bosses told me if 806 00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:04,020 the people that I've worked with all my 807 00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:06,120 career said things to me in confidence 808 00:33:09,710 --> 00:33:08,399 like that I wouldn't believe them too I 809 00:33:11,930 --> 00:33:09,720 would I would have a lot of confidence 810 00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,940 that they're not looking to mislead that 811 00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:13,440 they're that they're being 812 00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:15,480 straightforward and honest with me so I 813 00:33:20,350 --> 00:33:17,519 think that's a major aspect of this that 814 00:33:23,450 --> 00:33:20,360 goes on mentioned unnoticed and it's 815 00:33:24,769 --> 00:33:23,460 intangible so I understand why but I 816 00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:24,779 think it's interesting 817 00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:26,760 I think what what you've said Dennis is 818 00:33:31,730 --> 00:33:29,340 basically it's not debunkable uh be 819 00:33:33,710 --> 00:33:31,740 based on all those factors the flag 820 00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:33,720 officers that came out the vetting that 821 00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:36,840 went on first of all from the IG before 822 00:33:42,169 --> 00:33:39,360 you know this even got out there second 823 00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:42,179 of all from the reporters uh uh Ralph 824 00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,360 and uh Blumenthal and Leslie uh also by 825 00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:48,240 Ross cultart also by the debrief so you 826 00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:50,039 have we have what there's you know four 827 00:33:55,610 --> 00:33:52,740 layers if you count uh Leslie and Ralph 828 00:33:58,250 --> 00:33:55,620 as one we have four layers uh that that 829 00:33:59,630 --> 00:33:58,260 everybody went through to vet who this 830 00:34:01,610 --> 00:33:59,640 person is 831 00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:01,620 and and the person I spoke with I said 832 00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,799 I'm not willing to go 100 though 833 00:34:09,470 --> 00:34:06,960 yeah I'm not asking you to go anywhere 834 00:34:12,409 --> 00:34:09,480 I'm just saying it's not people that are 835 00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:12,419 debunking him and his motives it's not 836 00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:14,879 debunkable from a standpoint that if 837 00:34:18,770 --> 00:34:16,740 this has been gone over by a number of 838 00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,780 people that have vetted him you can say 839 00:34:22,970 --> 00:34:20,399 anybody can say I don't believe you 840 00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:22,980 until you show it to me I don't care if 841 00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:24,480 somebody says that I mean that's just 842 00:34:28,669 --> 00:34:26,399 not what life is people believe in God 843 00:34:29,810 --> 00:34:28,679 that have never physically seen him so I 844 00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:29,820 mean it's just there's a lot of things 845 00:34:34,010 --> 00:34:32,639 we believe in we believe that uh Social 846 00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:34,020 Security is going to be there when we 847 00:34:41,690 --> 00:34:37,440 retire but we don't know so anyway all 848 00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:41,700 right so Chris uh M dash s says how can 849 00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:44,300 Congress access let me put this up there 850 00:34:50,990 --> 00:34:47,280 so Chris how can Congress access the 851 00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:51,000 goodies so uh we don't know that they uh 852 00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:54,240 Dan and Priscilla Deb correct me we 853 00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:55,440 don't know that they haven't already 854 00:35:00,589 --> 00:34:57,839 received this information in closed 855 00:35:03,290 --> 00:35:00,599 session uh and then you have the 856 00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:03,300 complete body of Congress you have the 857 00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,800 folks that are on the Intel committee 858 00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:06,480 recent subcommittees that have a 859 00:35:10,910 --> 00:35:08,099 different level of clearance than 860 00:35:14,890 --> 00:35:10,920 everybody has so that's a little bit of 861 00:35:17,690 --> 00:35:14,900 an ambiguous question but here's from a 862 00:35:20,089 --> 00:35:17,700 far's perspective a federal uh 863 00:35:22,910 --> 00:35:20,099 regulation acquisition regulation 864 00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:22,920 perspective it's kind of like this when 865 00:35:27,170 --> 00:35:24,660 you have a contract that they're funding 866 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:27,180 that they're paying underneath that you 867 00:35:32,990 --> 00:35:30,180 have cleanse Clin contract line item 868 00:35:35,810 --> 00:35:33,000 numbers and in that contract buried 869 00:35:38,690 --> 00:35:35,820 somewhere are these programs the problem 870 00:35:41,210 --> 00:35:38,700 of what one of the many issues that 871 00:35:43,130 --> 00:35:41,220 David's pointing out is that Congress is 872 00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:43,140 funding these programs and they don't 873 00:35:48,410 --> 00:35:45,540 know it they don't know that these 874 00:35:50,210 --> 00:35:48,420 programs exist so this program could say 875 00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:50,220 you know I'm just going to throw out 876 00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:51,839 just something fictitious but it could 877 00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:55,200 say Area 51 maintenance contract you 878 00:35:59,810 --> 00:35:57,540 know aircraft maintenance contract and 879 00:36:02,390 --> 00:35:59,820 or experimental aircraft maintenance 880 00:36:04,670 --> 00:36:02,400 contract and contract line item numbers 881 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,680 underneath that one of them may be 882 00:36:08,270 --> 00:36:06,720 paying for every I'm just throwing this 883 00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:08,280 out there a reverse engineering program 884 00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:10,320 but Congress needs to know because 885 00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:12,480 they're paying for it they're paying a 886 00:36:17,690 --> 00:36:15,060 Big Bill because they may have X number 887 00:36:19,609 --> 00:36:17,700 of contractors that are being paid to 888 00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:19,619 try to work on that that craft and 889 00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:21,599 figure it out but they don't know that 890 00:36:27,230 --> 00:36:24,720 that's that's what that is at least just 891 00:36:28,849 --> 00:36:27,240 one aspect of what he's pointing out and 892 00:36:32,089 --> 00:36:28,859 essentially what they're saying is and 893 00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:32,099 I'm not you know the foremost uh uh 894 00:36:37,490 --> 00:36:34,980 person on government you know we do have 895 00:36:40,609 --> 00:36:37,500 a friend who's a government lawyer 896 00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:40,619 um but uh that right there is is why 897 00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:42,900 what people think is illegal they don't 898 00:36:49,069 --> 00:36:46,920 know what uh what they're paying for so 899 00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:49,079 I just wanted to say that I've heard 900 00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:51,540 stories about about spending that 901 00:36:58,970 --> 00:36:55,140 involved like spending like 500 for a 902 00:37:01,730 --> 00:36:58,980 food item like so there's some like room 903 00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:01,740 to kind of change what the budget looks 904 00:37:06,410 --> 00:37:05,040 like and it is probably illegal 905 00:37:08,089 --> 00:37:06,420 um and that's definitely something that 906 00:37:11,390 --> 00:37:08,099 will probably be scrutinized at some 907 00:37:13,790 --> 00:37:11,400 point but the bigger thing about the 908 00:37:16,849 --> 00:37:13,800 Congress aspect is you know Senator 909 00:37:19,849 --> 00:37:16,859 Chile brand Marco Rubio this people who 910 00:37:22,730 --> 00:37:19,859 are all about this topic are not saying 911 00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:22,740 a word right now and people are like 912 00:37:26,750 --> 00:37:25,020 constantly saying well where are you why 913 00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:26,760 aren't you saying anything and they're 914 00:37:33,290 --> 00:37:29,760 just silent so that's pretty telling 915 00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:33,300 that they're maybe perhaps afraid to 916 00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:43,370 or respond to Chris real quick I think 917 00:37:46,970 --> 00:37:45,060 when he says goodies he means craft 918 00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:46,980 that's what I think he's referring to 919 00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:49,320 specifically can Congress get access to 920 00:37:53,329 --> 00:37:50,880 the material 921 00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:53,339 um so for me what I think and it's this 922 00:37:58,910 --> 00:37:55,320 is going to Echo what you two let me see 923 00:38:02,870 --> 00:37:58,920 how to do this you two are saying is 924 00:38:05,810 --> 00:38:02,880 that the only way that Congress is going 925 00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:05,820 to be able to influence the 926 00:38:10,010 --> 00:38:08,520 DOD mechanism is through the power of 927 00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:10,020 the purse just like you guys have both 928 00:38:14,810 --> 00:38:13,020 touched on until the Congress the 929 00:38:16,250 --> 00:38:14,820 Appropriations Committee says all right 930 00:38:18,589 --> 00:38:16,260 look we've got these questions that 931 00:38:20,450 --> 00:38:18,599 you're not giving us answers to we're 932 00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:20,460 going to pull back a lot of funding 933 00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:23,040 until you tell us what they need to hold 934 00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:25,200 them hostage financially is what it 935 00:38:28,670 --> 00:38:26,820 boils down to that's when the 936 00:38:29,810 --> 00:38:28,680 military-industrial complex will have to 937 00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:29,820 go 938 00:38:40,130 --> 00:38:37,859 tour let's do something to get their 939 00:38:41,870 --> 00:38:40,140 hands on the goodies that's what I think 940 00:38:44,510 --> 00:38:41,880 that they're going to have to do 941 00:38:46,430 --> 00:38:44,520 let me speak to that real quick this is 942 00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:46,440 not a matter of the military-industrial 943 00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:49,800 complex they do not have control of 944 00:38:54,109 --> 00:38:52,260 these items control these items is being 945 00:38:55,970 --> 00:38:54,119 controlled by the US government the 946 00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:55,980 contractors the military industrial 947 00:39:00,770 --> 00:38:58,320 contractors are the ones who hire the 948 00:39:02,569 --> 00:39:00,780 contractors that analyze and try to 949 00:39:05,569 --> 00:39:02,579 reverse engineer and scientifically 950 00:39:07,130 --> 00:39:05,579 evaluate these materials so it's not a 951 00:39:10,010 --> 00:39:07,140 question of the military-industrial 952 00:39:12,589 --> 00:39:10,020 complex it's a question of clearance so 953 00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:12,599 whether or not there I and I also agree 954 00:39:17,770 --> 00:39:15,119 with Dan that they can hold the purse 955 00:39:20,750 --> 00:39:17,780 strings to get 956 00:39:23,089 --> 00:39:20,760 at least admitting 957 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,099 what level that they can get clear to I 958 00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:26,160 mean you're not unless you get an OCA an 959 00:39:30,050 --> 00:39:28,440 original classification authority to 960 00:39:31,609 --> 00:39:30,060 declassify that and that could be the 961 00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:31,619 president by the way because as you guys 962 00:39:36,589 --> 00:39:34,440 know he can declassify anything he wants 963 00:39:38,270 --> 00:39:36,599 um or the person the original whoever 964 00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,280 that original classification Authority 965 00:39:43,069 --> 00:39:40,800 is to to downgrade that so that Congress 966 00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:43,079 could how much they can know that could 967 00:39:47,870 --> 00:39:46,079 happen to a degree but I don't think in 968 00:39:50,210 --> 00:39:47,880 answer to his question I don't think 969 00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:50,220 they're necessarily they'll probably see 970 00:39:54,589 --> 00:39:52,200 photos of things they'll probably see 971 00:39:57,710 --> 00:39:54,599 documentations of things I don't think 972 00:40:00,829 --> 00:39:57,720 you'll be marching uh congressmen and 973 00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:00,839 women through secret sites to look at it 974 00:40:05,690 --> 00:40:03,180 and touch it uh and nor do I think that 975 00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,700 that's necessarily that necessary but it 976 00:40:10,310 --> 00:40:07,920 is necessary that they know what it is 977 00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:10,320 they're spent we're just to make an 978 00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:12,300 example we're reverse engineering craft 979 00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:14,339 this is what the program is this is what 980 00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:15,599 you're paying for 981 00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:17,520 this is the some documentation that 982 00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:19,740 describes it that's reasonable without 983 00:40:23,450 --> 00:40:21,180 bringing them in there and showing oh 984 00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:23,460 this is what we've learned to make it do 985 00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:26,880 because now that person is now run into 986 00:40:32,210 --> 00:40:29,520 you know the highest programs we have 987 00:40:34,569 --> 00:40:32,220 and they could be leaving office in 18 988 00:40:36,530 --> 00:40:34,579 months from now 989 00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:36,540 so that's 990 00:40:41,150 --> 00:40:39,119 see the balance 991 00:40:42,589 --> 00:40:41,160 yeah Priscilla maybe they could just 992 00:40:45,170 --> 00:40:42,599 give them a ride instead of trying to 993 00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,180 explain how that how it works that would 994 00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:48,000 answer all the questions for sure I mean 995 00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:49,500 how much of this is going to be sort of 996 00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:51,660 like protected by National Security 997 00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,660 right so how much of this is going to be 998 00:40:59,810 --> 00:40:57,119 legal as well like they want they even 999 00:41:02,030 --> 00:40:59,820 if they now like it's in this department 1000 00:41:03,770 --> 00:41:02,040 um this is the name of the project 1001 00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,780 what if they're saying well you don't 1002 00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:05,280 have the clearance and you know how long 1003 00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:07,440 it takes to get some sorts of clearance 1004 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,440 so what if how long can this be drawn 1005 00:41:14,569 --> 00:41:12,480 out by the people that don't want to see 1006 00:41:16,010 --> 00:41:14,579 this public even though they're doing 1007 00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:16,020 something illegal right like we know 1008 00:41:20,569 --> 00:41:19,020 legal battles not overnight so I'm kind 1009 00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:20,579 of worried a little bit that they're 1010 00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:22,740 gonna say this is do we can't share this 1011 00:41:25,970 --> 00:41:24,720 with even Congress right now because 1012 00:41:27,230 --> 00:41:25,980 they don't have the clearance they don't 1013 00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:27,240 have the need to know and it's a matter 1014 00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:29,220 of National Security 1015 00:41:33,470 --> 00:41:32,040 can I chime in on this a little bit okay 1016 00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:33,480 so I'm going to pull out some of the 1017 00:41:42,130 --> 00:41:37,140 history that I love to talk about so 1018 00:41:47,329 --> 00:41:42,140 um in the 90s the CIA was looking at a 1019 00:41:49,310 --> 00:41:47,339 USSR and Chinese study of uaps that back 1020 00:41:51,950 --> 00:41:49,320 then was called UFOs 1021 00:41:54,589 --> 00:41:51,960 and it was a joint study that they did 1022 00:41:58,609 --> 00:41:54,599 together and they claimed that they had 1023 00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,619 at least 10 objects retrieved that was 1024 00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:00,240 the 90s 1025 00:42:06,829 --> 00:42:04,920 so if we're 30 years late being honest 1026 00:42:10,250 --> 00:42:06,839 about the fact that we have these 1027 00:42:13,150 --> 00:42:10,260 objects you can bet our 1028 00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:13,160 not so friendly companions on the world 1029 00:42:20,450 --> 00:42:15,960 don't care and they're the Cold War 1030 00:42:22,910 --> 00:42:20,460 issue is kind of still at play so I I 1031 00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:22,920 just personally think you know 1032 00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:26,160 we need to just get over telling people 1033 00:42:32,750 --> 00:42:29,820 the truth so that we can Advance on this 1034 00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:32,760 topic because we're kind of leaving it 1035 00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:34,920 to other people to advance and 1036 00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:41,690 um and I think 1037 00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:42,960 that's 1038 00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:45,540 what you do bring up a good point 1039 00:42:50,510 --> 00:42:47,700 because 1040 00:42:52,430 --> 00:42:50,520 the reasons that 1041 00:42:54,829 --> 00:42:52,440 hey Deb we may have to have you just 1042 00:42:57,170 --> 00:42:54,839 step out and come back because your 1043 00:43:05,710 --> 00:42:57,180 audios we've missed uh part of the last 1044 00:43:12,589 --> 00:43:09,950 whichever you Deb or Dan 1045 00:43:15,170 --> 00:43:12,599 I'll change I'll follow up on Dad's 1046 00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:15,180 comments um she did say that the 1047 00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:17,760 basically the classification is 1048 00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,599 restrictive to science so maybe what 1049 00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,280 needs to happen is they need to lower 1050 00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:25,680 the classification of these programs so 1051 00:43:29,690 --> 00:43:27,540 that more people can get involved with 1052 00:43:32,210 --> 00:43:29,700 the research so that we can 1053 00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:32,220 speed up our understanding and research 1054 00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:35,280 of The Craft or material or whatever it 1055 00:43:38,569 --> 00:43:36,480 is 1056 00:43:41,569 --> 00:43:38,579 um it's so restricted that it's 1057 00:43:43,790 --> 00:43:41,579 stagnating is what it sounds like but 1058 00:43:46,010 --> 00:43:43,800 hey on that note I'm about at my time 1059 00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:46,020 limit okay 1060 00:43:51,710 --> 00:43:48,180 thank you for your time and good to see 1061 00:43:53,870 --> 00:43:51,720 everybody and uh buckle up Sunday is 1062 00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:53,880 going to be fun guys Dan thank you for 1063 00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:55,440 joining us brother and let everybody 1064 00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:57,359 else say goodbye go ahead dibs 1065 00:44:03,650 --> 00:44:00,560 thank you I look forward to more videos 1066 00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:03,660 I'm working on one tonight so we'll see 1067 00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:05,359 how it goes 1068 00:44:10,370 --> 00:44:07,680 you're doing a great job 1069 00:44:12,770 --> 00:44:10,380 um I love your work and uh you're just 1070 00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:12,780 so quick and so precise so keep doing it 1071 00:44:16,970 --> 00:44:15,119 it's great we admire you Dan thank you 1072 00:44:19,550 --> 00:44:16,980 bye-bye all right have a good night guys 1073 00:44:22,490 --> 00:44:19,560 peace 1074 00:44:24,130 --> 00:44:22,500 okay so this is what I was going to say 1075 00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:24,140 to you guys I was talking one question 1076 00:44:28,609 --> 00:44:26,760 oh yes ma'am no when you're done I have 1077 00:44:31,550 --> 00:44:28,619 a question for you guys so I I was 1078 00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:31,560 talking to a Navy Navy SEAL friend of 1079 00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:33,200 mine and we were discussing the topic 1080 00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:36,240 and you know it's very sensitive you 1081 00:44:40,130 --> 00:44:37,800 know when you have national security 1082 00:44:41,809 --> 00:44:40,140 stuff and what I said to him and what 1083 00:44:43,609 --> 00:44:41,819 I've told other people is when they say 1084 00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:43,619 to me you know what what do you think 1085 00:44:48,530 --> 00:44:45,660 they should tell us and I said I don't 1086 00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:48,540 know like I don't I don't have the 1087 00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:52,079 knowledge to know what is sensitive and 1088 00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:54,720 what's not what should be released those 1089 00:44:59,870 --> 00:44:57,359 that is for guys like David grush and 1090 00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:59,880 and his colleagues uh people in the 1091 00:45:05,690 --> 00:45:01,920 National command Authority people that 1092 00:45:08,210 --> 00:45:05,700 are understand what makes certain 1093 00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,220 intelligence dangerous and what makes 1094 00:45:14,329 --> 00:45:10,560 other intelligence more like benign 1095 00:45:16,010 --> 00:45:14,339 right so the answer uh is I don't know 1096 00:45:17,809 --> 00:45:16,020 what they should release obviously they 1097 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:17,819 should tell us something because that's 1098 00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,560 what David grush and and the colleagues 1099 00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:21,359 all the people we know you know 1100 00:45:25,970 --> 00:45:24,000 Priscilla knows John Ramirez and and Deb 1101 00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:25,980 knows him and Jim semivan and all these 1102 00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:27,839 other people saying they have to tell 1103 00:45:33,290 --> 00:45:30,000 the share something with the American 1104 00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:33,300 people how much I don't know we can't 1105 00:45:37,490 --> 00:45:35,040 share everything that's not happening 1106 00:45:39,950 --> 00:45:37,500 people that are waiting gonna wait to 1107 00:45:41,390 --> 00:45:39,960 see if uh documents and photographs and 1108 00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:41,400 videos 1109 00:45:44,990 --> 00:45:43,920 you may be waiting a long time if ever I 1110 00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:45,000 don't know that that's going to happen 1111 00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:47,160 but the fact at least if they'll admit 1112 00:45:50,650 --> 00:45:49,200 that it's there and just give like an 1113 00:45:53,809 --> 00:45:50,660 overview that's not going to be 1114 00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:53,819 sensitive to National Security I I think 1115 00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,800 we will have made it a long way so go 1116 00:45:59,809 --> 00:45:57,359 ahead Priscilla 1117 00:46:01,250 --> 00:45:59,819 so we're all obviously wanting a big 1118 00:46:05,150 --> 00:46:01,260 crowd craft right I'm sure Congress 1119 00:46:09,890 --> 00:46:06,770 at the end obviously we all want to ride 1120 00:46:11,630 --> 00:46:09,900 in one but my big question is why are we 1121 00:46:13,790 --> 00:46:11,640 so hung up I mean other than that like 1122 00:46:16,250 --> 00:46:13,800 Gary Nolan pointed it out in the article 1123 00:46:18,650 --> 00:46:16,260 by the debrief that you don't need an 1124 00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:18,660 entire craft think about what silicon 1125 00:46:22,370 --> 00:46:20,520 has done a grain of silicon has done for 1126 00:46:24,829 --> 00:46:22,380 our civilization if it has something 1127 00:46:26,510 --> 00:46:24,839 unique about it then it's worth paying 1128 00:46:28,010 --> 00:46:26,520 attention to so I think that some people 1129 00:46:30,770 --> 00:46:28,020 like even though we're in love with the 1130 00:46:32,510 --> 00:46:30,780 idea of this big beautiful ship that we 1131 00:46:33,890 --> 00:46:32,520 can all see and touch and be like that's 1132 00:46:35,450 --> 00:46:33,900 weird looking for hieroglyphs or 1133 00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:35,460 whatever you're looking for I think that 1134 00:46:39,950 --> 00:46:37,740 we need to realize that maybe some of 1135 00:46:42,650 --> 00:46:39,960 the stuff that we're gonna see is going 1136 00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:42,660 to be more awe-inspiring on a scientific 1137 00:46:46,609 --> 00:46:44,880 level because it's you know it's radio 1138 00:46:48,109 --> 00:46:46,619 signature is different or it's chemical 1139 00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:48,119 composition is different or the Isotopes 1140 00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:50,160 are something we can't do here so just 1141 00:46:54,109 --> 00:46:52,079 keep in mind that the most compelling 1142 00:46:56,210 --> 00:46:54,119 evidence isn't going to be always a 1143 00:46:57,530 --> 00:46:56,220 Mothership Landing wherever you want it 1144 00:46:59,809 --> 00:46:57,540 to land 1145 00:47:01,609 --> 00:46:59,819 so is that is that where you're at like 1146 00:47:03,109 --> 00:47:01,619 if you and you know we had this question 1147 00:47:04,910 --> 00:47:03,119 on cab the other day so I'll just ask 1148 00:47:07,790 --> 00:47:04,920 you you know 1149 00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:07,800 um if if if you had you know went to a 1150 00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:09,480 base and you had two Hangar doors and 1151 00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:11,460 they said behind hanger door number a 1152 00:47:16,430 --> 00:47:13,680 you have biological beings they're 1153 00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:16,440 either alive or not alive behind door B 1154 00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:19,440 you have a fully intact craft that you 1155 00:47:23,809 --> 00:47:21,359 can get a complete tour inside and out 1156 00:47:25,609 --> 00:47:23,819 what would you choose or in your case 1157 00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:25,619 maybe you have pieces of craft that you 1158 00:47:30,349 --> 00:47:28,319 could behind door C uh you go in a lab 1159 00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:30,359 and look at some isotope ratios that are 1160 00:47:36,650 --> 00:47:33,540 anomalous what would you choose 1161 00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:36,660 I think that I would have to go 1162 00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:40,079 it's hard because if the being is gone 1163 00:47:46,730 --> 00:47:41,760 then 1164 00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:46,740 with it you can't you can learn like 1165 00:47:53,390 --> 00:47:50,400 some anatomy and physiology but with the 1166 00:47:54,829 --> 00:47:53,400 intact craft you might be able to sort 1167 00:47:56,270 --> 00:47:54,839 of make some parallels between this was 1168 00:47:58,730 --> 00:47:56,280 a new technology that was developed 1169 00:48:00,589 --> 00:47:58,740 seemingly out of nowhere in our life 1170 00:48:03,050 --> 00:48:00,599 versus you know 1171 00:48:05,930 --> 00:48:03,060 like uh something that we've seen 1172 00:48:07,130 --> 00:48:05,940 develop slowly over time and then with 1173 00:48:09,770 --> 00:48:07,140 the pieces 1174 00:48:11,450 --> 00:48:09,780 if you have to be like a molecular nerd 1175 00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:11,460 or neurochemist or some sort of chemist 1176 00:48:17,390 --> 00:48:15,240 but I think that sometimes the pieces 1177 00:48:18,410 --> 00:48:17,400 would be able to be analyzed more 1178 00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:18,420 because you're not going to want to take 1179 00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:21,000 apart a giant craft and you know study 1180 00:48:25,069 --> 00:48:22,740 it but 1181 00:48:27,230 --> 00:48:25,079 um so I think that if they were all 1182 00:48:29,630 --> 00:48:27,240 available probably the whole craft 1183 00:48:32,089 --> 00:48:29,640 because just seeing the technology and 1184 00:48:33,530 --> 00:48:32,099 what it looks like on the inside 1185 00:48:36,589 --> 00:48:33,540 um oh I don't know it's torn between 1186 00:48:39,290 --> 00:48:36,599 that and the pieces though because they 1187 00:48:41,569 --> 00:48:39,300 can be studied in different ways 1188 00:48:43,790 --> 00:48:41,579 so I tell my final answer that's a good 1189 00:48:45,770 --> 00:48:43,800 question you're like Vinnie Vinnie said 1190 00:48:48,530 --> 00:48:45,780 the craft uh the other night when we had 1191 00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:48,540 our little chat uh but I would go with I 1192 00:48:53,390 --> 00:48:50,940 would want to see the being alive 1193 00:48:55,069 --> 00:48:53,400 absolutely but if they're gone what can 1194 00:48:58,010 --> 00:48:55,079 I learn from you know 1195 00:49:00,290 --> 00:48:58,020 it's really sad too right to see these 1196 00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:00,300 poor people that just like maybe flying 1197 00:49:04,970 --> 00:49:02,160 around like how we want to go Mars right 1198 00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:04,980 like and then they end up stuck here or 1199 00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:06,240 I think Deb and I had a conversation 1200 00:49:09,770 --> 00:49:07,800 about this earlier about people saying 1201 00:49:10,970 --> 00:49:09,780 like they must not be that in advance if 1202 00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:10,980 they're crashing and leaving things 1203 00:49:15,230 --> 00:49:12,960 behind for you for us to study you know 1204 00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:15,240 but then again like what if they didn't 1205 00:49:18,890 --> 00:49:17,160 know what if you can be Advanced 1206 00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:18,900 technologically and maybe have like a 1207 00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:21,359 not so Advanced mindset maybe their gift 1208 00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:23,220 is technology and they just landed here 1209 00:49:32,109 --> 00:49:25,380 and and we're like oh atmosphere looks 1210 00:49:36,410 --> 00:49:34,910 real quick two things Jacque Valley's 1211 00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:36,420 hypothesis is that they're being gifted 1212 00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:38,880 to us and he's kind of one of the 1213 00:49:43,250 --> 00:49:41,040 godfathers for this topic or or some of 1214 00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:43,260 them are being gifted to us Rick Doty 1215 00:49:48,349 --> 00:49:45,839 has said to us that uh that one of their 1216 00:49:50,510 --> 00:49:48,359 hypotheses is that uh flying outside of 1217 00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:50,520 the atmosphere and then inside the 1218 00:49:56,329 --> 00:49:53,520 atmosphere with um in weather where 1219 00:49:58,609 --> 00:49:56,339 there's a um basically convective 1220 00:50:01,069 --> 00:49:58,619 thunderstorms may have brought something 1221 00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,079 like the Roswell craft down in Corona is 1222 00:50:05,329 --> 00:50:03,359 flying through in the atmosphere and 1223 00:50:06,890 --> 00:50:05,339 then convective activity occurs so I 1224 00:50:08,990 --> 00:50:06,900 don't know but that's out there I'm 1225 00:50:10,849 --> 00:50:09,000 sorry Deb go ahead man yeah I just get 1226 00:50:14,270 --> 00:50:10,859 really upset when people assume that 1227 00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:14,280 they are an advanced like super Advanced 1228 00:50:18,530 --> 00:50:16,079 um culture and all that just because 1229 00:50:21,410 --> 00:50:18,540 they have nice cars essentially like I 1230 00:50:24,290 --> 00:50:21,420 compare it to the to the Tesla like just 1231 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,300 because musk's company made the Tesla 1232 00:50:28,970 --> 00:50:26,400 does that make musk a better person more 1233 00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:28,980 advanced no because he has the spaceship 1234 00:50:32,450 --> 00:50:31,200 does that make him more advanced not 1235 00:50:34,670 --> 00:50:32,460 really like just having better 1236 00:50:36,589 --> 00:50:34,680 technology just because you've probably 1237 00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:36,599 been around a billion extra years 1238 00:50:41,930 --> 00:50:39,180 doesn't mean that you're not a 1239 00:50:44,750 --> 00:50:41,940 vulnerable being potentially in an 1240 00:50:47,630 --> 00:50:44,760 environment that's hostile and and not 1241 00:50:49,970 --> 00:50:47,640 just because we're people with guns but 1242 00:50:53,690 --> 00:50:49,980 also because the you know atmosphere 1243 00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:53,700 might not be the best or the giant Sun 1244 00:50:57,950 --> 00:50:55,980 that we have that's still pretty vibrant 1245 00:50:59,690 --> 00:50:57,960 is not great for them because obviously 1246 00:51:03,230 --> 00:50:59,700 they have really big eyes for a reason 1247 00:51:05,150 --> 00:51:03,240 like you know Darkness 1248 00:51:07,250 --> 00:51:05,160 um I'm just saying like I just I think 1249 00:51:10,670 --> 00:51:07,260 people always make that mistake of 1250 00:51:12,890 --> 00:51:10,680 thinking that their physical being is 1251 00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:12,900 not invulnerable 1252 00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:15,119 so I just I think they're very 1253 00:51:19,370 --> 00:51:16,880 vulnerable if they come out of a craft 1254 00:51:21,410 --> 00:51:19,380 but what if it's also what we kind of 1255 00:51:22,609 --> 00:51:21,420 touched on earlier when we had our it's 1256 00:51:24,829 --> 00:51:22,619 kind of funny because Deb called me then 1257 00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:24,839 you called me but um we kind of like 1258 00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:27,119 before she had to go start to go down 1259 00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:29,760 like an AI Rabbit Hole like what if the 1260 00:51:34,490 --> 00:51:32,160 being is not either in the craft it 1261 00:51:37,790 --> 00:51:34,500 doesn't need it what if the craft is the 1262 00:51:39,950 --> 00:51:37,800 being and it's it's AI being or what if 1263 00:51:41,450 --> 00:51:39,960 the beings with the big eyes only go 1264 00:51:43,130 --> 00:51:41,460 only they take that car out sometimes 1265 00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:43,140 you know and sometimes they just Let It 1266 00:51:47,569 --> 00:51:45,660 Go by itself and remote control it or 1267 00:51:50,270 --> 00:51:47,579 you know talk whatever you want to think 1268 00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:50,280 so we also have that in mind like we 1269 00:51:55,150 --> 00:51:51,920 don't know enough 1270 00:51:57,470 --> 00:51:55,160 and you know some advances in 1271 00:51:58,910 --> 00:51:57,480 biotechnology might give us hints to 1272 00:52:00,349 --> 00:51:58,920 that not that I could think any of the 1273 00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:00,359 top of my head but there's some weird 1274 00:52:05,150 --> 00:52:02,160 stuff happening in biotechnology with AI 1275 00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:05,160 so we have to keep AI in the 1276 00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:06,480 conversation at all times when we're 1277 00:52:10,130 --> 00:52:08,160 talking about these beings even if it is 1278 00:52:12,650 --> 00:52:10,140 interdimensional or Ultra terrestrial 1279 00:52:14,270 --> 00:52:12,660 what if that's how they control this 1280 00:52:16,910 --> 00:52:14,280 thing maybe they can't cross the 1281 00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:16,920 threshold but somehow because their 1282 00:52:21,290 --> 00:52:18,660 artificial intelligence they can control 1283 00:52:22,609 --> 00:52:21,300 it from Dimension a into Dimension b c 1284 00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,619 whatever 1285 00:52:26,809 --> 00:52:24,480 and I also want to say 1286 00:52:30,589 --> 00:52:26,819 I'm sorry go ahead Deb I don't want to 1287 00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:30,599 be mean to robots but or computers but 1288 00:52:35,210 --> 00:52:32,700 if you come out of your tank 1289 00:52:38,210 --> 00:52:35,220 you're probably still pretty vulnerable 1290 00:52:40,370 --> 00:52:38,220 you know like even if you're a robot 1291 00:52:42,290 --> 00:52:40,380 hey let me just let me just say good 1292 00:52:44,030 --> 00:52:42,300 evening real quick to uh Bigfoot 1293 00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:44,040 influencers Tim and Dana in the house 1294 00:52:47,690 --> 00:52:46,380 Hello friends they're also in uh 1295 00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:47,700 actually I don't think they're in 1296 00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,440 Maryland they're in Delaware but they're 1297 00:52:53,329 --> 00:52:51,839 in your your neighboring state I believe 1298 00:52:55,309 --> 00:52:53,339 um also Deanna says that's a great 1299 00:52:57,410 --> 00:52:55,319 metaphor Deb and Deb I wanted to 1300 00:52:59,450 --> 00:52:57,420 commiserate with you on that point my 1301 00:53:01,849 --> 00:52:59,460 irritation is slightly different but but 1302 00:53:04,490 --> 00:53:01,859 very tangential to what you said which 1303 00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:04,500 is that when people say oh if we were to 1304 00:53:08,329 --> 00:53:05,760 interact these we wouldn't even 1305 00:53:10,370 --> 00:53:08,339 understand we couldn't understand and 1306 00:53:11,930 --> 00:53:10,380 it's like well I I disagree with that 1307 00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:11,940 that they're looking at us like we're 1308 00:53:17,329 --> 00:53:14,400 ants and stuff because ants don't have 1309 00:53:19,309 --> 00:53:17,339 the ability to perform micro surgery and 1310 00:53:21,410 --> 00:53:19,319 and make it to the moon and Mars and 1311 00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,420 things that we've done so I think we can 1312 00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:23,280 understand a lot I'm not saying that 1313 00:53:27,770 --> 00:53:25,440 we're on an internet intellect 1314 00:53:30,410 --> 00:53:27,780 intellectual parallel with with some of 1315 00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:30,420 these intelligences uh or that we can 1316 00:53:36,170 --> 00:53:33,119 create what they do but I do think that 1317 00:53:38,569 --> 00:53:36,180 we do have an incredible ability to 1318 00:53:42,170 --> 00:53:38,579 listen to see and to under understand 1319 00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:42,180 and to be able to comprehend beyond what 1320 00:53:47,450 --> 00:53:45,119 are beyond what our technical scientific 1321 00:53:49,069 --> 00:53:47,460 and technological abilities are so I I 1322 00:53:50,690 --> 00:53:49,079 too share that with you that people 1323 00:53:51,950 --> 00:53:50,700 think that just because they're more 1324 00:53:54,290 --> 00:53:51,960 advanced than us we can't understand 1325 00:53:56,030 --> 00:53:54,300 them it's like you don't know that you 1326 00:53:57,650 --> 00:53:56,040 know you still know that we can 1327 00:54:00,170 --> 00:53:57,660 understand a lot it doesn't mean we can 1328 00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,180 do it what they can do clearly we can't 1329 00:54:04,250 --> 00:54:01,920 make a craft that can do what they can 1330 00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:04,260 do there's a lot of things that we've 1331 00:54:09,650 --> 00:54:07,200 seen uh that their craft can do that 1332 00:54:11,150 --> 00:54:09,660 we're not even close to being able to do 1333 00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:11,160 but that doesn't mean we can't 1334 00:54:18,770 --> 00:54:15,359 understand it or understand their uh uh 1335 00:54:21,230 --> 00:54:18,780 you know their Communications with us so 1336 00:54:24,170 --> 00:54:21,240 um man what do we have we got about five 1337 00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:24,180 minutes left so let's get some uh let's 1338 00:54:29,089 --> 00:54:26,160 get some parting shots starting with uh 1339 00:54:31,010 --> 00:54:29,099 Debs oh I didn't get to do the history I 1340 00:54:32,809 --> 00:54:31,020 don't know if you do anything sorry okay 1341 00:54:36,170 --> 00:54:32,819 let me let me add it to the stream 1342 00:54:40,790 --> 00:54:36,180 everybody Deb's been talk about this go 1343 00:54:45,130 --> 00:54:40,800 back way longer than 1933. go ahead so 1344 00:54:48,650 --> 00:54:45,140 this was in the Brooklyn daily Eagle in 1345 00:54:53,150 --> 00:54:48,660 1865. it describes 1346 00:54:55,549 --> 00:54:53,160 um this object flying through the sky 1347 00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,559 um knocking over trees 1348 00:54:59,809 --> 00:54:57,119 and then 1349 00:55:01,490 --> 00:54:59,819 all of a sudden like you first think oh 1350 00:55:03,290 --> 00:55:01,500 it's like an asteroid it's a meteorite 1351 00:55:05,809 --> 00:55:03,300 it's something like that because he 1352 00:55:08,270 --> 00:55:05,819 smells sulfur but then he's talking 1353 00:55:10,130 --> 00:55:08,280 about there's hieroglyphs 1354 00:55:14,030 --> 00:55:10,140 and then at the end there's this whole 1355 00:55:18,170 --> 00:55:14,040 speculation thing happening about who 1356 00:55:20,809 --> 00:55:18,180 created Humanity which um includes 1357 00:55:23,450 --> 00:55:20,819 something about a superior race being 1358 00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,460 involved which is really fascinating so 1359 00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:25,920 I guess the point of this 1360 00:55:30,589 --> 00:55:28,680 um to me is that people are always 1361 00:55:32,690 --> 00:55:30,599 assuming 1362 00:55:35,390 --> 00:55:32,700 um that this started with Roswell or 1363 00:55:38,990 --> 00:55:35,400 maybe started in Italy but this goes way 1364 00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:39,000 way way way back in history and 1365 00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:42,480 um for anyone interested the moon tossed 1366 00:55:51,230 --> 00:55:45,599 program is in the DIA foyers 1367 00:55:54,049 --> 00:55:51,240 under the UFO PDFs and it talks about 1368 00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:54,059 um a group from the U.S Air Force that 1369 00:55:56,690 --> 00:55:55,680 would go retrieve objects that would 1370 00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:56,700 fall 1371 00:56:02,290 --> 00:56:00,000 and it seems to have predated satellites 1372 00:56:06,890 --> 00:56:02,300 the creation of that group 1373 00:56:09,950 --> 00:56:06,900 witness citizen Sean Rash has found 1374 00:56:11,930 --> 00:56:09,960 foyers that were based on events that 1375 00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:11,940 happened within the United States with 1376 00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:15,359 that group and the DIA foia's cover 1377 00:56:20,450 --> 00:56:17,640 other countries 1378 00:56:21,650 --> 00:56:20,460 which probably called us because we had 1379 00:56:24,290 --> 00:56:21,660 NASA 1380 00:56:26,690 --> 00:56:24,300 where the U.S Air Force would go out to 1381 00:56:29,690 --> 00:56:26,700 retrieve objects 1382 00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:29,700 that would fall from the sky 1383 00:56:33,049 --> 00:56:31,200 and I think it's pretty telling that 1384 00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:33,059 those are in the UFO 1385 00:56:39,170 --> 00:56:36,480 PDFs but they were not just looking 1386 00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:39,180 for satellites so that's all I just 1387 00:56:43,309 --> 00:56:40,559 wanted to talk about in history real 1388 00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:43,319 quick Deb I think what you found here is 1389 00:56:46,609 --> 00:56:44,880 an extraordinary I mean if you look at 1390 00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:46,619 that timeline that's like at the 1391 00:56:51,410 --> 00:56:49,200 conclusion of the Civil War uh or during 1392 00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:51,420 the Civil War right there that that's 1393 00:56:56,030 --> 00:56:53,760 like how long ago that they may have 1394 00:56:59,150 --> 00:56:56,040 found things that we couldn't explain 1395 00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:59,160 and that is just I mean I didn't know I 1396 00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:01,200 I you know I knew that Columbus you know 1397 00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:02,880 what what he had written in his people 1398 00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:05,040 say he wrote in his logs about candles 1399 00:57:09,710 --> 00:57:07,440 going in the water we've heard Roman 1400 00:57:11,630 --> 00:57:09,720 Shields you know the the Flaming Shields 1401 00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:11,640 and so forth this is this is pretty 1402 00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:12,960 extraordinary I've never heard this 1403 00:57:17,450 --> 00:57:15,119 context so thanks for bringing what you 1404 00:57:20,510 --> 00:57:17,460 done brought right and I think the 1405 00:57:23,089 --> 00:57:20,520 honestly the UFOs in India like they 1406 00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:23,099 described them in their 1407 00:57:30,170 --> 00:57:26,480 um great detail and their extraordinary 1408 00:57:32,990 --> 00:57:30,180 and they go back thousands of years 1409 00:57:35,210 --> 00:57:33,000 yep and they defy and they meet like a 1410 00:57:36,530 --> 00:57:35,220 lot of the five observables too that was 1411 00:57:38,329 --> 00:57:36,540 like my first video was the five 1412 00:57:40,790 --> 00:57:38,339 observables and the ancient vamana of 1413 00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:40,800 India because it was just like 1414 00:57:43,849 --> 00:57:42,240 I was reading about all the different 1415 00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:43,859 things that they did and all the things 1416 00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:45,599 they did you know how they appeared and 1417 00:57:50,270 --> 00:57:48,000 how people describe them in the text and 1418 00:57:52,670 --> 00:57:50,280 I was like this is you know all about 1419 00:57:54,349 --> 00:57:52,680 five observables right here so 1420 00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:54,359 definitely look into those if you 1421 00:57:57,890 --> 00:57:55,440 haven't already 1422 00:58:00,170 --> 00:57:57,900 probably not a coincidence sorry go 1423 00:58:02,750 --> 00:58:00,180 ahead DJ uh no it made me think of 1424 00:58:04,670 --> 00:58:02,760 having one a gray in yoga class and like 1425 00:58:06,530 --> 00:58:04,680 seeing what they'd be like in down dog 1426 00:58:08,450 --> 00:58:06,540 you know giant head you know dip towards 1427 00:58:09,490 --> 00:58:08,460 the floor that'd be interesting but I'm 1428 00:58:11,809 --> 00:58:09,500 sorry go ahead 1429 00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:11,819 yeah I don't think it's a coincidence 1430 00:58:18,290 --> 00:58:16,559 when you look at the spirituality in um 1431 00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,300 India that there's things where they're 1432 00:58:22,849 --> 00:58:20,640 talking about levitation and they're 1433 00:58:24,910 --> 00:58:22,859 talking about meditation experiences 1434 00:58:28,270 --> 00:58:24,920 where they're reaching out to the sky 1435 00:58:33,230 --> 00:58:28,280 and you know just really incredible 1436 00:58:35,450 --> 00:58:33,240 depth of abilities of humanity ends 1437 00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:35,460 um PSI abilities and I think that 1438 00:58:38,750 --> 00:58:36,960 there's something there 1439 00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:38,760 absolutely 1440 00:58:41,930 --> 00:58:40,319 and how many times I've heard people 1441 00:58:44,270 --> 00:58:41,940 talk about the relationship between 1442 00:58:48,109 --> 00:58:44,280 Consciousness telepathy and these craft 1443 00:58:51,710 --> 00:58:48,119 or the occupants operating them or the 1444 00:58:56,450 --> 00:58:53,930 you have to I'm trying to see if I can 1445 00:58:58,849 --> 00:58:56,460 find this there's a book on breathing of 1446 00:59:02,030 --> 00:58:58,859 that guy that was on uh with with Joe 1447 00:59:05,089 --> 00:59:02,040 Rogan I'm trying to see oh James Nester 1448 00:59:07,730 --> 00:59:05,099 James Nestor was on with Joey Rogan and 1449 00:59:10,730 --> 00:59:07,740 he said that um their yogis in India 1450 00:59:12,289 --> 00:59:10,740 where they could their breath work uh 1451 00:59:13,490 --> 00:59:12,299 they could change the temperature of 1452 00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:13,500 each finger 1453 00:59:18,650 --> 00:59:15,599 you know so you know like Wim Hof is 1454 00:59:21,170 --> 00:59:18,660 famous for being able to he'd sit in a 1455 00:59:22,609 --> 00:59:21,180 bath they took him into a lab where the 1456 00:59:25,609 --> 00:59:22,619 the temperature of the water was 1457 00:59:27,170 --> 00:59:25,619 controlled to like 33 degrees or 34 1458 00:59:29,569 --> 00:59:27,180 degrees I can't remember but it was 1459 00:59:32,450 --> 00:59:29,579 somewhere in the 30s and he could raise 1460 00:59:34,430 --> 00:59:32,460 they they had him swallow a pill so they 1461 00:59:36,530 --> 00:59:34,440 could see his core temperature and he 1462 00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:36,540 was able to with his breathing raise his 1463 00:59:40,609 --> 00:59:38,640 core temperature uh while sitting in 1464 00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:40,619 this in this water in a lab in the 1465 00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:42,720 Netherlands and they s and then then 1466 00:59:46,849 --> 00:59:45,119 James Master said well they're yogis 1467 00:59:48,650 --> 00:59:46,859 that can they can say well I want this 1468 00:59:51,710 --> 00:59:48,660 finger to be warmer than the other so 1469 00:59:53,630 --> 00:59:51,720 it's just incredible mind and and and 1470 00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:53,640 and this gets to what Anjali talks about 1471 00:59:58,490 --> 00:59:55,680 all the time and you know even John 1472 01:00:00,349 --> 00:59:58,500 Ramirez talks about this is you know 1473 01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:00,359 exo-academian our friend talks about 1474 01:00:04,430 --> 01:00:03,359 this is uh the meditation aspect of it 1475 01:00:06,170 --> 01:00:04,440 all the things they're doing at the 1476 01:00:08,569 --> 01:00:06,180 Monroe Institute 1477 01:00:11,089 --> 01:00:08,579 um if you can connect and get inside 1478 01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:11,099 yourself you have a chance to connect 1479 01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:14,160 with these beings on a level um that 1480 01:00:17,690 --> 01:00:16,559 that the rest of us either aren't and 1481 01:00:20,210 --> 01:00:17,700 you know when I'm sitting here with 1482 01:00:23,870 --> 01:00:20,220 somebody who has been in contact with 1483 01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:23,880 these beings in in Priscilla so uh but 1484 01:00:29,390 --> 01:00:26,160 you're not doing you're not using these 1485 01:00:31,849 --> 01:00:29,400 methodologies though Priscilla to the 1486 01:00:33,710 --> 01:00:31,859 Monroe stuff but you do okay 1487 01:00:36,650 --> 01:00:33,720 um unfortunate so I started my journey 1488 01:00:39,230 --> 01:00:36,660 with my experiences and then it seems 1489 01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:39,240 like the more research I do 1490 01:00:43,730 --> 01:00:40,980 I've kind of 1491 01:00:45,289 --> 01:00:43,740 not delved into trying to make contact 1492 01:00:47,329 --> 01:00:45,299 because 1493 01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:47,339 I'm kind of if they are there right 1494 01:00:50,930 --> 01:00:48,960 which we've some of us have experienced 1495 01:00:52,250 --> 01:00:50,940 that it's kind of frustrating that 1496 01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:52,260 they're not being transparent with us 1497 01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:55,680 and it's kind of strange so I don't 1498 01:00:59,690 --> 01:00:58,319 desire to make Con I think Deb's kind of 1499 01:01:01,010 --> 01:00:59,700 I talked to Deb about this like on our 1500 01:01:04,370 --> 01:01:01,020 law 1501 01:01:05,809 --> 01:01:04,380 it's kind of you know I've kind of put a 1502 01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:05,819 little bit of a barrier up so I don't 1503 01:01:10,910 --> 01:01:08,160 know that I would even be able to do 1504 01:01:13,370 --> 01:01:10,920 that but I am familiar with Monroe's you 1505 01:01:15,289 --> 01:01:13,380 know Gateway process I'm familiar with 1506 01:01:16,970 --> 01:01:15,299 how it works I've got a whole video 1507 01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:16,980 written that I need to record a whole 1508 01:01:19,789 --> 01:01:18,480 podcast written about like the process 1509 01:01:21,289 --> 01:01:19,799 and the physics evolves I'm just 1510 01:01:22,910 --> 01:01:21,299 embarrassed and 1511 01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:22,920 um gotta find time to do it right you 1512 01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:24,900 know but I haven't done it in a long 1513 01:01:31,010 --> 01:01:27,359 time and you know it's because I don't 1514 01:01:34,670 --> 01:01:31,020 know what we're dealing with anymore 1515 01:01:36,530 --> 01:01:34,680 it's not obvious to me anymore the less 1516 01:01:38,450 --> 01:01:36,540 I more I research the less I know and 1517 01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:38,460 the less I trust 1518 01:01:42,289 --> 01:01:39,599 um 1519 01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:42,299 not all beings but 1520 01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:44,400 some of the ones that might not be as 1521 01:01:49,069 --> 01:01:46,559 transparent as they should be 1522 01:01:50,809 --> 01:01:49,079 may I yeah and that's a concern you know 1523 01:01:53,329 --> 01:01:50,819 Nathan said from the beginning but may I 1524 01:01:57,410 --> 01:01:53,339 ask you Priscilla when you've had 1525 01:02:00,049 --> 01:01:57,420 contact has it been unwanted or or 1526 01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:00,059 unexpected it was unexpected so you 1527 01:02:05,390 --> 01:02:02,640 didn't try to no gender through that you 1528 01:02:08,450 --> 01:02:05,400 know I maybe had one or I've had a few 1529 01:02:10,730 --> 01:02:08,460 experiences using meditation but and 1530 01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:10,740 those were good but other than that it's 1531 01:02:16,910 --> 01:02:13,920 been a mix-up of you know it being not 1532 01:02:18,829 --> 01:02:16,920 in my control and it'll come at me with 1533 01:02:20,930 --> 01:02:18,839 the cosmic contracts and all that 1534 01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:20,940 because I've read about that too this is 1535 01:02:23,690 --> 01:02:22,319 you know I'm not the only one that's 1536 01:02:26,329 --> 01:02:23,700 experienced something that they didn't 1537 01:02:29,089 --> 01:02:26,339 want to experience and I'm not out there 1538 01:02:31,849 --> 01:02:29,099 looking for it and I I think until we 1539 01:02:33,770 --> 01:02:31,859 know more you have to be very 1540 01:02:35,450 --> 01:02:33,780 um weary of just putting your 1541 01:02:38,089 --> 01:02:35,460 Consciousness out there 1542 01:02:40,190 --> 01:02:38,099 but I mean I still do Monroe I still do 1543 01:02:41,690 --> 01:02:40,200 the meditations I still don't I still 1544 01:02:43,609 --> 01:02:41,700 want to astral travel I still want to do 1545 01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:43,619 these things but again your parameters 1546 01:02:47,289 --> 01:02:45,599 have to be very specific and I find that 1547 01:02:49,609 --> 01:02:47,299 when I set the parameter specifically 1548 01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:49,619 not a lot of them come around so that 1549 01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:51,359 makes me curious but this would be like 1550 01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:54,000 a whole other fireside chat right it 1551 01:02:58,190 --> 01:02:56,400 would be yeah and I was going to say uh 1552 01:03:00,770 --> 01:02:58,200 Deb or you 1553 01:03:03,230 --> 01:03:00,780 um do you have a supposition is because 1554 01:03:05,089 --> 01:03:03,240 if I'm in Priscilla will correct me if 1555 01:03:07,010 --> 01:03:05,099 I'm wrong she had experiences long 1556 01:03:10,730 --> 01:03:07,020 before she started doing Monroe 1557 01:03:12,770 --> 01:03:10,740 Institute uh protocols right so Deb do 1558 01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:12,780 you think that they've chosen Priscilla 1559 01:03:17,210 --> 01:03:14,880 uh for re you know do you think that 1560 01:03:19,130 --> 01:03:17,220 that was uh uh for there was a reason 1561 01:03:21,530 --> 01:03:19,140 why that they wanted to connect with her 1562 01:03:23,329 --> 01:03:21,540 you know as opposed to me I realize most 1563 01:03:25,250 --> 01:03:23,339 humans would also want to connect with 1564 01:03:27,829 --> 01:03:25,260 Priscilla over me but I mean these 1565 01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:27,839 intelligences okay well Priscilla is 1566 01:03:31,970 --> 01:03:30,240 awesome so of course anyone would want 1567 01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:31,980 to connect with Priscilla 1568 01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:34,079 first of all 1569 01:03:40,370 --> 01:03:38,160 I know that but but but the truth is 1570 01:03:43,190 --> 01:03:40,380 that I'm really interested in 1571 01:03:44,750 --> 01:03:43,200 neuroanatomy as I've said like I got a 1572 01:03:46,789 --> 01:03:44,760 little distracted by this whole you know 1573 01:03:49,309 --> 01:03:46,799 whistleblower telling everyone that 1574 01:03:51,530 --> 01:03:49,319 there's aliens thing but you know 1575 01:03:53,930 --> 01:03:51,540 besides that big story ever but yeah 1576 01:03:56,510 --> 01:03:53,940 yeah you know um so 1577 01:03:58,970 --> 01:03:56,520 who was slightly distracted but 1578 01:04:01,609 --> 01:03:58,980 um once I get back into it I'm trying to 1579 01:04:04,010 --> 01:04:01,619 kind of find the keys to the kingdom so 1580 01:04:06,589 --> 01:04:04,020 to speak which kind of matches a lot of 1581 01:04:08,990 --> 01:04:06,599 things it includes the hemisink concept 1582 01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:09,000 which is both brains uh I'm sorry both 1583 01:04:14,030 --> 01:04:11,280 hemispheres kind of connecting and 1584 01:04:17,510 --> 01:04:14,040 working together I think it also kind of 1585 01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:17,520 addresses the meditation aspect and IT 1586 01:04:21,950 --> 01:04:20,160 addresses the the things Grant Cameron 1587 01:04:24,530 --> 01:04:21,960 has said about like the other reality 1588 01:04:26,809 --> 01:04:24,540 and DMT and all of it 1589 01:04:29,750 --> 01:04:26,819 um so and even like how I say I think 1590 01:04:33,130 --> 01:04:29,760 Consciousness is material so 1591 01:04:36,049 --> 01:04:33,140 I believe if I have to break it down 1592 01:04:37,329 --> 01:04:36,059 that's something Consciousness is 1593 01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:37,339 material 1594 01:04:43,309 --> 01:04:41,520 you etherealists well no and actually 1595 01:04:45,170 --> 01:04:43,319 I've looked into the history of the 1596 01:04:47,390 --> 01:04:45,180 people who don't by the way there's 1597 01:04:50,410 --> 01:04:47,400 there was a movement on that and it's 1598 01:04:53,569 --> 01:04:50,420 really interesting history but I think 1599 01:04:56,089 --> 01:04:53,579 when I study this stuff it comes down to 1600 01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:56,099 to em and I think brain waves are part 1601 01:05:02,030 --> 01:04:58,799 of the EM spectrum and I think some 1602 01:05:04,370 --> 01:05:02,040 people just have a greater antenna is a 1603 01:05:06,170 --> 01:05:04,380 way to put it and I think Priscilla you 1604 01:05:09,049 --> 01:05:06,180 have one of those antennas like and it 1605 01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:09,059 tracks things to you because they can 1606 01:05:13,329 --> 01:05:11,520 reach you and right now you're saying 1607 01:05:16,270 --> 01:05:13,339 nope you're I'm not open for business 1608 01:05:18,650 --> 01:05:16,280 unreachable 1609 01:05:21,170 --> 01:05:18,660 she has the do not disturb on her iPhone 1610 01:05:23,950 --> 01:05:21,180 and they can't reach her 1611 01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:23,960 I've seen enough enjoying the 1612 01:05:28,430 --> 01:05:25,920 uneventfulness at the moment but yeah 1613 01:05:30,770 --> 01:05:28,440 you're right about the brain waves in my 1614 01:05:33,410 --> 01:05:30,780 research the brain waves 1615 01:05:36,109 --> 01:05:33,420 hold the answer to all this 1616 01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:36,119 ability to contact other places because 1617 01:05:41,450 --> 01:05:38,880 there's a point in the brain wave or any 1618 01:05:43,750 --> 01:05:41,460 wave function where you you technically 1619 01:05:48,530 --> 01:05:43,760 blip into eternity where there's no time 1620 01:05:50,569 --> 01:05:48,540 and place and an hour here might be like 1621 01:05:53,450 --> 01:05:50,579 three years there we don't know 1622 01:05:56,569 --> 01:05:53,460 so that's kind of like what hemisync 1623 01:06:00,589 --> 01:05:56,579 lets you tap into without getting into 1624 01:06:02,510 --> 01:06:00,599 another you know it just just real 1625 01:06:05,569 --> 01:06:02,520 quickly before we close up the show here 1626 01:06:07,789 --> 01:06:05,579 but do you do you have ethereum why 1627 01:06:10,430 --> 01:06:07,799 they've contacted you 1628 01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:10,440 on multiple occasions no um you know the 1629 01:06:14,049 --> 01:06:12,240 thing that kind of 1630 01:06:16,609 --> 01:06:14,059 I think that when I was on Max 1631 01:06:19,309 --> 01:06:16,619 moskovic's Channel talking to him 1632 01:06:20,390 --> 01:06:19,319 he was kind of like what was going on at 1633 01:06:22,730 --> 01:06:20,400 that time 1634 01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:22,740 and was there any kind of like emotional 1635 01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:24,960 turmoil or dissonance in the household 1636 01:06:29,150 --> 01:06:26,880 or anything like that a lot of people 1637 01:06:30,430 --> 01:06:29,160 seem to have contact or be contacted 1638 01:06:33,529 --> 01:06:30,440 when that happens 1639 01:06:35,329 --> 01:06:33,539 and whether it's a good experience or a 1640 01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:35,339 scary experience or less the favorable 1641 01:06:38,809 --> 01:06:37,440 experience you know it tends to happen 1642 01:06:40,190 --> 01:06:38,819 to people when they're sort of 1643 01:06:42,410 --> 01:06:40,200 emotionally charged from what I've 1644 01:06:43,970 --> 01:06:42,420 noticed and from when I talk to people 1645 01:06:45,770 --> 01:06:43,980 um and hearing other people's stories 1646 01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:45,780 and I think that that would be the only 1647 01:06:50,329 --> 01:06:48,240 reason like when you have a emotional 1648 01:06:52,910 --> 01:06:50,339 trauma or any sort of trauma it sort of 1649 01:06:55,789 --> 01:06:52,920 blows out your energetic feelers 1650 01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:55,799 so your antenna gets bigger essentially 1651 01:07:02,150 --> 01:06:59,280 or is able to receive more so I think 1652 01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:02,160 that it might be as simple as that can I 1653 01:07:08,809 --> 01:07:04,079 can I say also from a psychology 1654 01:07:10,970 --> 01:07:08,819 perspective stress probably kicks in a 1655 01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:10,980 whole bunch of stuff in our body to 1656 01:07:16,490 --> 01:07:14,160 survive and it's you know literally 1657 01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:16,500 you're going to have a wider perspective 1658 01:07:21,710 --> 01:07:20,400 or you will die you know so like that to 1659 01:07:24,770 --> 01:07:21,720 me that that's 1660 01:07:25,849 --> 01:07:24,780 right so there's a key aspect I think 1661 01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:25,859 there 1662 01:07:31,010 --> 01:07:29,039 um and I'm still looking into all that 1663 01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:31,020 to you when I'm doing this neuroanatomy 1664 01:07:34,670 --> 01:07:33,119 stuff so all of my research is probably 1665 01:07:36,289 --> 01:07:34,680 going to go to Priscilla because she's 1666 01:07:38,270 --> 01:07:36,299 doing it and I want her to have 1667 01:07:40,670 --> 01:07:38,280 everything I have 1668 01:07:42,410 --> 01:07:40,680 that's awesome man you just have to have 1669 01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:42,420 a you know we'll have research dates 1670 01:07:46,430 --> 01:07:44,280 more often 1671 01:07:48,890 --> 01:07:46,440 yeah I was gonna say it reminds me of 1672 01:07:52,370 --> 01:07:48,900 two research two Bigfoot researchers 1673 01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:52,380 that went to very rural Ohio and one was 1674 01:07:56,930 --> 01:07:54,480 a younger gentleman one was a much older 1675 01:07:59,089 --> 01:07:56,940 gentleman and other researchers in the 1676 01:08:01,069 --> 01:07:59,099 air said you got to meet you know Kirk 1677 01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:01,079 you got to meet this guy uh I can't 1678 01:08:05,450 --> 01:08:03,599 remember his name was uh uh Bob or 1679 01:08:06,829 --> 01:08:05,460 whatever and Bob and they they basically 1680 01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:06,839 forced the two of them to come together 1681 01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:08,640 because they had so much material and 1682 01:08:14,329 --> 01:08:11,520 now the Yoda and Obi-Wan are sort of 1683 01:08:15,710 --> 01:08:14,339 working uh working together as Yoda 1684 01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:15,720 retires 1685 01:08:19,370 --> 01:08:17,520 um so Deanna here is saying her 1686 01:08:22,189 --> 01:08:19,380 experiences sound quite similar to yours 1687 01:08:24,169 --> 01:08:22,199 she oddly calls it uh her antenna as 1688 01:08:26,689 --> 01:08:24,179 well thank you Deanna thank you 1689 01:08:28,189 --> 01:08:26,699 everybody that came in to hang out with 1690 01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:28,199 us tonight we went nine minutes over 1691 01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:30,719 just because I got so many questions for 1692 01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:33,839 Deb and Priscilla uh and it's just 1693 01:08:39,309 --> 01:08:36,960 amazing so uh any any uh well let's just 1694 01:08:43,309 --> 01:08:39,319 go with the goodbyes go ahead uh Debs 1695 01:08:46,249 --> 01:08:43,319 it's an exciting time I'm so glad that 1696 01:08:47,870 --> 01:08:46,259 we get to be here together to deal with 1697 01:08:49,849 --> 01:08:47,880 what's going on 1698 01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:49,859 um I have to point out that one thing I 1699 01:08:54,050 --> 01:08:52,020 would have liked to have mentioned was 1700 01:08:56,749 --> 01:08:54,060 that everyone was always worried about 1701 01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:56,759 Mass hysteria the world is doing fine 1702 01:09:01,070 --> 01:08:58,799 right now the world is dealing with 1703 01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:01,080 normal everyday things people are still 1704 01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:02,960 paying their bills and going to work 1705 01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:05,759 it's the UFO community that I'm worried 1706 01:09:10,010 --> 01:09:06,960 about so 1707 01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:10,020 I I just want to remind everyone that 1708 01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:12,960 love is flying season three of Brazil is 1709 01:09:20,930 --> 01:09:19,490 I recommend that some people who have 1710 01:09:22,610 --> 01:09:20,940 some comments about 1711 01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:22,620 um Brazilians take a look at that 1712 01:09:26,570 --> 01:09:24,480 because maybe they'll open their mind a 1713 01:09:29,809 --> 01:09:26,580 little bit and stop making some of the 1714 01:09:33,050 --> 01:09:29,819 comments they've made yeah my wife's 1715 01:09:35,090 --> 01:09:33,060 from Brazil homes so 1716 01:09:39,410 --> 01:09:35,100 Mr Bigfoot will come after you if you 1717 01:09:41,329 --> 01:09:39,420 don't yeah and I I was gonna say uh also 1718 01:09:44,450 --> 01:09:41,339 uh I I should share with Priscilla that 1719 01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:44,460 uh the the show about motorcycle gangs 1720 01:09:48,650 --> 01:09:46,799 on FX Mayan season five is out everybody 1721 01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:48,660 oh my God 1722 01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:51,359 just kidding MotoGP this weekend all 1723 01:09:55,250 --> 01:09:53,279 kinds of exciting things and NBA Finals 1724 01:09:56,930 --> 01:09:55,260 I think come back tomorrow night 1725 01:09:58,370 --> 01:09:56,940 man Priscilla 1726 01:09:59,630 --> 01:09:58,380 um thank you buddy do you have any any 1727 01:10:02,270 --> 01:09:59,640 parting shots 1728 01:10:04,430 --> 01:10:02,280 yes thank you for having me as always 1729 01:10:05,810 --> 01:10:04,440 it's fun to jump on and hopefully 1730 01:10:08,750 --> 01:10:05,820 getting back more into the swing of it 1731 01:10:12,110 --> 01:10:08,760 and seeing everybody more but um don't 1732 01:10:14,450 --> 01:10:12,120 forget to you know this is very exciting 1733 01:10:15,950 --> 01:10:14,460 but take some time to kind of deal with 1734 01:10:18,050 --> 01:10:15,960 like your real life and real world 1735 01:10:21,169 --> 01:10:18,060 events we know Canada is going through 1736 01:10:22,490 --> 01:10:21,179 horrible fires right now so please send 1737 01:10:24,350 --> 01:10:22,500 your heart your love your prayers 1738 01:10:25,970 --> 01:10:24,360 whatever you do to them because even if 1739 01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:25,980 the fires are contained there's still a 1740 01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:28,320 lot of damage and 1741 01:10:32,750 --> 01:10:30,960 um yeah just you know this is very 1742 01:10:35,570 --> 01:10:32,760 important and very exciting to us but 1743 01:10:38,090 --> 01:10:35,580 step aside a few times a day to kind of 1744 01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:38,100 just be with your family and 1745 01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:40,080 you know be away from the UFO thing 1746 01:10:44,510 --> 01:10:41,520 because you might come back with fresh 1747 01:10:46,970 --> 01:10:44,520 eyes and and see it even more and even 1748 01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:46,980 more vibrantly that way 1749 01:10:51,709 --> 01:10:49,679 I I couldn't agree more it's important 1750 01:10:53,689 --> 01:10:51,719 to have these distractions I also 1751 01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:53,699 respect what Deb has said the world 1752 01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:55,679 didn't explode she's been saying this 1753 01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:58,560 for a long time uh that that we should 1754 01:11:03,530 --> 01:11:00,960 know and you know uh everybody's not 1755 01:11:05,330 --> 01:11:03,540 going to go into a frenzy In fairness I 1756 01:11:08,570 --> 01:11:05,340 I think it you know potentially could be 1757 01:11:11,330 --> 01:11:08,580 a different story when it's a a major 1758 01:11:14,090 --> 01:11:11,340 major news story on all the networks and 1759 01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:14,100 internationally as well and uh and if 1760 01:11:18,830 --> 01:11:16,800 there is uh that contact event that uh 1761 01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:18,840 David grush if if you listen to some of 1762 01:11:23,450 --> 01:11:20,640 the Ross Colt art footage that's already 1763 01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:23,460 out in advance of Sunday 1764 01:11:28,729 --> 01:11:26,400 um David Rush does did say something 1765 01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:28,739 that Deb has said on this show for a 1766 01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:31,920 long period of time is part of his uh 1767 01:11:37,250 --> 01:11:34,560 mission is that people are prepared for 1768 01:11:39,350 --> 01:11:37,260 a possible contact event you guys have 1769 01:11:42,110 --> 01:11:39,360 heard Deb say this on many Cobb shows 1770 01:11:44,510 --> 01:11:42,120 David grush is also saying that that 1771 01:11:46,250 --> 01:11:44,520 maybe he you know has heard from 1772 01:11:47,870 --> 01:11:46,260 whatever sources that he has that he 1773 01:11:50,209 --> 01:11:47,880 thinks that there will be be a contact 1774 01:11:52,669 --> 01:11:50,219 event and that people should be prepared 1775 01:11:56,030 --> 01:11:52,679 so that they don't freak out so good on 1776 01:11:57,770 --> 01:11:56,040 you Debs from my perspective 1777 01:12:01,970 --> 01:11:57,780 um where we've gotten to at this point 1778 01:12:05,149 --> 01:12:01,980 is a is a a place in time in history 1779 01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,159 that we've never been before uh Lou even 1780 01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:07,440 if he knew this information tangentially 1781 01:12:13,130 --> 01:12:10,560 was not able to bring it out but with 1782 01:12:14,689 --> 01:12:13,140 the legislation uh first of all Lou is 1783 01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:14,699 still in a fight with the Pentagon right 1784 01:12:18,890 --> 01:12:17,280 now over uh harassment and his clearance 1785 01:12:20,810 --> 01:12:18,900 and still has his lawyer speaking with 1786 01:12:24,050 --> 01:12:20,820 them I didn't know that until two days 1787 01:12:26,330 --> 01:12:24,060 ago and but David was able to bring this 1788 01:12:28,610 --> 01:12:26,340 information out and this is an app this 1789 01:12:32,209 --> 01:12:28,620 is a moment in history right here this 1790 01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:32,219 is a moment in history that um uh I I 1791 01:12:36,649 --> 01:12:33,840 think someday will be written in history 1792 01:12:39,290 --> 01:12:36,659 books is the day that maybe the world 1793 01:12:41,689 --> 01:12:39,300 learned about UFOs a lot of countries 1794 01:12:44,030 --> 01:12:41,699 have decided that they wanted the uh the 1795 01:12:45,410 --> 01:12:44,040 U.S to take the lead on this uh I don't 1796 01:12:49,370 --> 01:12:45,420 know why they've done that but that's 1797 01:12:51,410 --> 01:12:49,380 what they've done and so the US is and 1798 01:12:53,390 --> 01:12:51,420 uh we have some courageous people that 1799 01:12:56,450 --> 01:12:53,400 have come forward with information that 1800 01:12:59,570 --> 01:12:56,460 we have never had confirmed from as high 1801 01:13:01,610 --> 01:12:59,580 of a source as as it is right now so wow 1802 01:13:04,669 --> 01:13:01,620 and this is during the span of the two 1803 01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:04,679 years in which I met Nathan I met Debs I 1804 01:13:08,750 --> 01:13:06,960 met Priscilla and Vinnie and all these 1805 01:13:11,570 --> 01:13:08,760 different people in the UFO community 1806 01:13:13,970 --> 01:13:11,580 and started a UFO show this is in you 1807 01:13:18,890 --> 01:13:13,980 know just about over that just a little 1808 01:13:20,689 --> 01:13:18,900 over that 24-month span so it's it's you 1809 01:13:22,370 --> 01:13:20,699 know why I didn't think we would see 1810 01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:22,380 history this quickly 1811 01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:25,199 people like Debs perhaps did 1812 01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,080 um but here we are so 1813 01:13:32,990 --> 01:13:30,480 thank you can I make one more comment 1814 01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:33,000 about that yes ma'am Once Upon a Time 1815 01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:36,000 people didn't believe gorillas were a 1816 01:13:39,169 --> 01:13:36,960 thing 1817 01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:39,179 they then discovered that gorillas were 1818 01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:41,040 a thing because it was you know 1819 01:13:47,209 --> 01:13:44,400 displayed to other people however it was 1820 01:13:49,310 --> 01:13:47,219 distributed indigenous people let people 1821 01:13:50,990 --> 01:13:49,320 know that gorillas were a thing prior to 1822 01:13:51,950 --> 01:13:51,000 that by the way they should have 1823 01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:51,960 listened 1824 01:13:57,290 --> 01:13:55,199 they didn't invite guess what now it's 1825 01:13:59,209 --> 01:13:57,300 not a big deal the gorillas were a thing 1826 01:14:00,830 --> 01:13:59,219 we're gonna get there with Humanity too 1827 01:14:02,689 --> 01:14:00,840 they're going to realize it's part of 1828 01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:02,699 nature they're going to overcome their 1829 01:14:05,390 --> 01:14:04,320 shock they're going to realize it's a 1830 01:14:06,649 --> 01:14:05,400 thing they're going to realize they 1831 01:14:09,709 --> 01:14:06,659 should have listened to the indigenous 1832 01:14:14,689 --> 01:14:09,719 people and then we're gonna be okay 1833 01:14:17,149 --> 01:14:14,699 thank you Debs our resident psychologist 1834 01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:17,159 um and uh and also Bigfoot the North 1835 01:14:22,010 --> 01:14:19,020 American Wood ape I hope that doesn't 1836 01:14:24,050 --> 01:14:22,020 come out uh any anytime soon because I 1837 01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:24,060 think they'll be in danger but uh that's 1838 01:14:28,250 --> 01:14:26,520 a that's a real thing as well 1839 01:14:30,890 --> 01:14:28,260 um they don't have the advocacy they 1840 01:14:32,570 --> 01:14:30,900 don't have it David grush uh to come out 1841 01:14:35,330 --> 01:14:32,580 and speak about that and it's probably 1842 01:14:39,830 --> 01:14:35,340 better for bigfoot that they don't so uh 1843 01:14:42,410 --> 01:14:39,840 on behalf of our friends of Debs of 1844 01:14:44,030 --> 01:14:42,420 Priscilla of Dan this is deed and by the 1845 01:14:45,890 --> 01:14:44,040 way you see there like subscribe all 1846 01:14:47,390 --> 01:14:45,900 that stuff just so that you know people 1847 01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:47,400 actually want to pay attention and come 1848 01:14:50,990 --> 01:14:49,199 on the show with us we know we can get 1849 01:14:52,930 --> 01:14:51,000 Priscilla but who knows if Gary Nolan's 1850 01:14:55,850 --> 01:14:52,940 going to come back so 1851 01:14:59,570 --> 01:14:55,860 but uh by the way next week Dr Diana 1852 01:15:02,209 --> 01:14:59,580 pasoka will be on with us so tune in uh 1853 01:15:04,729 --> 01:15:02,219 for Dr pasoka I believe it's Wednesday 1854 01:15:06,770 --> 01:15:04,739 or Thursday I'll check that we'll be 1855 01:15:10,330 --> 01:15:06,780 coming out with promo soon but uh we 1856 01:15:13,189 --> 01:15:10,340 were going to talk to Dr pasoka about uh 1857 01:15:15,709 --> 01:15:13,199 paranormal spirits and things like that 1858 01:15:18,649 --> 01:15:15,719 and boy we have some bigger stuff to 1859 01:15:21,470 --> 01:15:18,659 talk about so far 1860 01:15:22,970 --> 01:15:21,480 uh yeah I I'm so excited that uh she's 1861 01:15:25,070 --> 01:15:22,980 gonna come back and we'll be able to 1862 01:15:28,610 --> 01:15:25,080 kick it around so thank you uh Priscilla 1863 01:15:31,850 --> 01:15:28,620 Debs DJ cabs as always we say peace out 1864 01:15:33,410 --> 01:15:31,860 one love we'll see you down the road and 1865 01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:33,420 you know we're always undering wondering